LadyVictoria Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Yeah and Todd Rundgren - who is credited as the producer - was just as responsible for how it sounded and Meat Loaf was - literally - just the mouthpiece. Later Jim would do a producer's record with a girl group concept called Pandora's Box which featured the original version of "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" which Celine Dion later made into a hit. LV - the flipside to that is the awards for Song and Record of the Year (in various categories) go to songwriters and producers. The Artist/Performance awards go to the actual performers. Oohh I see. I just pay attention to the dancing and outfits when I watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Mara I have a question. The lady from 4 Non Blondes, Linda Perry, I believe. Doesn't she write for everyone ? So why do people like Cristina and Britney and all those pop tarts get Grammys? Aren't their records producer records too? Why do they get the Grammys if they are just singing someone else's songs? OMG, Linda Perry. She is stunningly talented. I was soooooooo lucky...she agreed to perform at one of the all-star charity benefit concerts I produced in Hollywood. And holy shit, when they soundchecked, the whole place just froze. Everyone was riveted. Glued to the spot, jaws hanging open. She was beyond amazing. Yeah, there's plenty of people who just make their living as songwriters but not performers. That's never been an issue. In fact, the record industry always preferred it that way. They hated the movement towards bands writing their own material and demanding artistic control. They prefer solo singers that do not write, because the label can retain more control. The record companies have always treated their artists as disposable and replaceable. Building a "pop tart" into a marketable brand/money making machine is the ideal scenario for labels. (However, if you are referring to Christina Aguilera, at least she's truly got a voice. She's the real deal. It's a shame to lump her in with the plastic dolls that have to have their voices pitch corrected electronically and duped 100 times to make it sound halfway decent....Brittany, Jessica, Lyndsay...) The Grammys are given in a ton of different categories. Writing, producing/engineering, performing, etc. I have always thought it was a flawed judging system regardless, I could never tolerate sitting through an award show because the judges seemed to get it so wrong much of the time. In the 1980's most of the judges were in their 80's, (my music attorney being one of them...um, why?). They eventually got exposed for that, (first award for Best Metal Album, anyone?), and there was a push for people of my generation to join the voting board, and I was invited, but I refused. It was just too aggravating for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyVictoria Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Makes sense. There's so much that we don't see or understand. At least I don't. I mean, I hardly listen to music because everything sounds the same to me. Some of it is catchy and cool, but I don't really buy anything unless I feel moved by it, emotionally or physically and usually it's from the indie genre like The Sounds or Ladytron. or Spanish music. usually stuff from overseas. I do like that little pop tartlet Demi Lovato though, she has a song right now.. something about a love song. Cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 @ Halo: Thank you for the kind words earlier about the perfumes, and that was sweet of you to feel for those artists when their worlds came crashing down. xoxoxox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietguy Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Wow, QG, good point. Some bands don't play on their own records AT ALL. Another producer's record that took a lot of flack during that upheaval was C+C Music Factory. I mean, HELLO, read the friggin title, fer cryin out loud! It was two producers who brought in different singers for different tracks and put out dance records that topped every flippin' chart. (Everybody Dance Now, Things That Make You Go Hmmm, etc.) One of their huge hit videos featured a female singer who wasn't the one actually on the record, so they too got caught up in the "fake band" scandal along with Milli Vanilli. Utter stupidity. Thank you. I did not know that album took flack for that reason. Even I knew what the C+C stood for and what they had basically done. The two producers recorded songs and brought in whatever talent they needed to do that. As far as music videos go, I just assume they are as close to reality as the X Files. Well, actually I do believe some of the things on X Files might be real, so that is a bad exxample. I guess what does bother me is when they feel compelled to use "prettier" (male or female) singers for videos or touring. It's a shame to lump her in with the plastic dolls that have to have their voices pitch corrected electronically and duped 100 times to make it sound halfway decent....Brittany, Jessica, Lyndsay... You must have heard different songs than I did. I assumed they forgot to do the pitch electronic fixing on their songs I have heard. Edited May 16, 2012 by quietguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietguy Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I do like that little pop tartlet Demi Lovato though, she has a song right now.. something about a love song. Cute. That is Selena Gomez I think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luna65 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yeah I was thinking that too unless it's a different song. But QG's right if it's the "I Love You Like A Love Song" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyVictoria Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Oh yes it is Selena Gomez. I like that song and have had it stuck in my head for a week. DAMMIT they are infiltrating my brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientGoddess Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Iam loving these new releases. Deciding on which big bottle buy to get. mmmmmmmm!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyVictoria Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Iam loving these new releases. Deciding on which big bottle buy to get. mmmmmmmm!!!! It looks like you already have a big bottle of something there missy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfumesniffer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) I got my trial pack of Bohemian Cats today, and OCCO Ambrosia and Glass Slipper samples. I'm stuffed up, though, with sinus and allergies, may have to wait to sniff & review. Mara, I love the paw print bag! Edited May 19, 2012 by perfumesniffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfumesniffer Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 So much for leaving LPs within reach of doggies - they didn't open or destroy them, but I came home to all my new samples strewn about the living room. Man, I wanted to be the first one to take them out of the bags and sniff! Heart's Ease has chew marks on the cap so I guess it gets the canine thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liz Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 were there ever any PEs this month ? and if so, listed ? did I miss it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiana Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 were there ever any PEs this month ? and if so, listed ? did I miss it ? Sea Find and Rosie's Wedding Cake were the only ones listed this month. Mara did mention she has some "treasures" she'll release from the vault in June.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBear Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I was trying to hold off for new releases, but I freaked out and snapped up a bottle of OCCO Ambrosia and Glass Slipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xev Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I just want to say WOW! I just got my may collection and pretty much love everything in it. Eternal sunshine is too masculine for my tastes, but I'm going to try to get my husband to wear it; I think I would love it on him. Other than that, I seriously will wear and love all of them. I often don't go for monthly sample packs because inevitably I only like few predictable scent types. I'm glad I gambled on this one! I will try to get around to reviewing everything as I test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raq On Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Xev, I thought of you with the release of the new OCCO ambrosia, Do you love it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xev Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Xev, I thought of you with the release of the new OCCO ambrosia, Do you love it? Oh HELL yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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