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I am starting this a review thread for the single molecule now available. I wanted to share with you guys something I have recently discovered about DHEAS. It can cause breakouts at the application site. I have a bunch of zits on my chest and back of my neck to prove it. I never break out. Shelly B has got the same problem right now. We have both been testing it a lot. This info is confirmed by Chris who is one of Mara's formulators. I love DHEAS but will be keeping it on my clothes and hair from now on. And my forearms are probably safe too, no zits there. I am pretty sure this happens at higher concentrations for the most part, but still be careful where you put your sprays. I was using about 100mcg split between arms, chest, neck and hair so not too much at each site.

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Thanks for the heads up,Halo...yikes 100 mcg is a lot!

I have had zero problems with 20 mcg,or

with any of the blends sold here that it is in.

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I should add my review of DHEAS. I love it madly. Makes me happy, giggly, giddy and talkative. Very fast talking talkative. Not like bnol where you might say stuff you don't want to but just talking your brains out.

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To be clear, Halo please confirm that the product you are reporting on here did not come from LP. Neither you nor Shelly received the product you are testing from LP.

 

Chris and I use entirely different bases. I take great care in choosing quite costly hypo-allergenic bases. (Not to say that Chris doesn't, I'm just saying that he and I have different priorities where bases are concerned and they are quite different.)

 

If we ASSUME that the spray bottles we have will yield 200 sprays, then that's 12.5 mcg per spray (2,500 mcg per bottle strength). 100 mcg is a lot to wear at once.

 

And it makes sense that it might cause breakouts, because the body produces DHEAS in greatest quantity during the years that you're most prone to acne...the down side of it's "youth serum" type effect, perhaps?

 

 

@ Cinnamonmel, you are not going to have this problem wearing Heart's Ease or any of my blends that contain DHEAS. Halo is commenting on using a very large dosage, unbuffered by anything else, and we don't know the base solution.

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No I didn't buy it here. Sorry to not make that clear. From what i heard it is a property of the phero itself, not the base. That's why I thought it was worth noting. But no you shouldn't have a problem with the blends. But my spray is 10mcg per spray and I only spray one spray per area so for me personally it was possible to break out from as little as 10mcg. Shelly was testing higher amounts. I have gone from 10-100mcg. It may not happen to everyone. Definitely not trying to be alarmist, it's just info I wish I would have known before testing it since I am going to the beach Monday with a lovely batch of zits.

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im getting bad headaches from my TOPPER.

is it possible that its the DHEAS? I have alphanol in almost everything I wear and dont get headaches.

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I should add my review of DHEAS. I love it madly. Makes me happy, giggly, giddy and talkative. Very fast talking talkative. Not like bnol where you might say stuff you don't want to but just talking your brains out.

 

I'm quite interested in this molecule but this effect actually doesn't sound that great - a bit too hyperactive and caffeine-like for me! I already run on a pretty high-stress level most of the time, so I don't need to make it any worse! But perhaps that is just because you used it in such high dosage? Anyway great to see these reports coming in, I'll be reading everyone's experiences with interest.

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Hi - no I bought it elsewhere as I had ant's in my pants - so didn't report here - although I do understand it's a property of both the molecule itself and less the carrier but more importantly - I think for me - it's dosing. I have it a 100 mcg per spray strength - which I WOULDN'T do again as I am a mister and this is very very potent. IE - it my effort to determine sweet spot - I have given myself a number of unhappy side effects because I have doses at strasopheric levels

 

This is clearly a molecule where misters do better at lower dosages.

 

But - the pluses - so no one panics - is keep it below 200 mcgs if you are monster dosing - but better. 100 mcgs if using over a blend - and you should have the best bubbly happy glow - that spreads to all around you. (at 200 - self effects of extreme horniness - at least with me - wear at that level with care)

 

It's a really wonderful molecule and totally worth having. I am NEVER running out of this.

 

 

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Lor I really don't know about the headaches. I've not heard that about DHEAS at all but anything is possible. Some blends that cause headaches for some people have actually helped my headaches before so who knows?

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I've used 1-3 sprays of 100mcg spray (not from here, caught the ants-in-pants, too) with no bad effects! No horniness, but I'm happy, chatty and bright/bubbly!! A real mood-lifter!! I'm definitely looking forward to trying Topper with my next order!!

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im getting bad headaches from my TOPPER.

is it possible that its the DHEAS? I have alphanol in almost everything I wear and dont get headaches.

I don't get headaches from it & a-nol can give me headaches, so it is quite possible it's the DHEAS. Does anyone else get a slight nervousness with the DHEAS heavy blends? I do, but it subsides quickly. It seriously does remind me of the nervousness I would get around guys I *really* liked when I was younger.

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I don't get headaches from it & a-nol can give me headaches, so it is quite possible it's the DHEAS. Does anyone else get a slight nervousness with the DHEAS heavy blends? I do, but it subsides quickly. It seriously does remind me of the nervousness I would get around guys I *really* liked when I was younger.

 

Beccah, I don't feel it as nervousness, but more as excitement. Sort-of that going to Disneyland in the morning and can't sleep feeling!

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I get that "Wheeeee" like yippee let's go thing. - but at high doses. And like Halo - I talk really really fast.

 

My sweet spot for making everyone else happy and not ODing me so much is spraying the BACK of my hair. I'm not doing the inhaling they are. I just have to keep it off my skin or ick - b-acne.

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Yes, DHEAS is supposed to give you that *butterflies in the tummy* kind of excitement feel, and also a *first blush of love* kind of feel, and both of those may be interpreted as "nervousness".

 

@ Lor, just guessing, but I'm still inclined to believe that it's the Alpha-Nol that's giving you a headache. Remember, Topper is pretty concentrated and the base is sooo light and fluffy and airborne. It's more Alpha-Nol than is in any of our other other blends, and in a lighter base as well. Use less?

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I get that "Wheeeee" like yippee let's go thing. - but at high doses. And like Halo - I talk really really fast.

 

My sweet spot for making everyone else happy and not ODing me so much is spraying the BACK of my hair. I'm not doing the inhaling they are. I just have to keep it off my skin or ick - b-acne.

I wonder if misting & walking through backwards would limit ODing oneself as well, I'm going to try it & report.

Yes, PM definitely! It's not a bad feeling & it does subside rather quickly, leaving me to enjoy the happy glow :)

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Yep I get the butterflies in the tummy, excited/nervousness thing. I get that at lower doses actually as well.

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To be clear, Halo please confirm that the product you are reporting on here did not come from LP. Neither you nor Shelly received the product you are testing from LP.

 

Chris and I use entirely different bases. I take great care in choosing quite costly hypo-allergenic bases. (Not to say that Chris doesn't, I'm just saying that he and I have different priorities where bases are concerned and they are quite different.)

 

If we ASSUME that the spray bottles we have will yield 200 sprays, then that's 12.5 mcg per spray (2,500 mcg per bottle strength). 100 mcg is a lot to wear at once.

 

And it makes sense that it might cause breakouts, because the body produces DHEAS in greatest quantity during the years that you're most prone to acne...the down side of it's "youth serum" type effect, perhaps?

 

 

@ Cinnamonmel, you are not going to have this problem wearing Heart's Ease or any of my blends that contain DHEAS. Halo is commenting on using a very large dosage, unbuffered by anything else, and we don't know the base solution.

 

Ah, that's cool, I was only thinking it was the phero itself, and was gonna be careful where I put it. I love the effects anyway, it wouldn't have stopped me using it (Heart's Ease), I like it too much!

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Does anyone know if DHEA just gives the wearer the butterflies and the look how beautiful I am effects or does it also effect those around us by appearing more attractive to them and giving them the excited butterflies?

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It's supposed to give everyone "da butterflies" and make the wearer appear more youthful.

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totally jealous. I get zero from DHEAS. nothing. not even slightly.

 

I think im broken,lol.

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I don't think your broken Lor! LOL - you just respond to different things.

 

I DO notice the beautifying effect and I am finding this added to Perfect Match is AMAZING. I cheat and I boosted my PM with 4 drops Cops neat per bottle. Enough to be there - not enough to knock you down.

 

That recipe - PM, 4 drops Cops, and DHEAs misted on hair - truly is a very feminine, very much NEW love, Girly blend - if you want to remind the man why he bonded to you in the first place - give this a go. It's a CHAMP.

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...That recipe - PM, 4 drops Cops, and DHEAs misted on hair - truly is a very feminine, very much NEW love, Girly blend - if you want to remind the man why he bonded to you in the first place - give this a go. It's a CHAMP.

 

Thanks Shelly. That's exactly what I was wondering when I first joined. I'll be giving this a try as soon as my pocket book swells with summer tips! ;)

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Aha!! I sprayed this on and really kind of forgot about. All morning long, people kept telling me how pretty I looked today. I just keept giving them the side eye because my fall allergies are really rolling in, and I look it. Also, it's not a meeting day, so I'm on the more comfortable side of business casual (although I am wearing some snazzy red shoes). But DHEAS is a beautifier, isn't it?

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Aha!! I sprayed this on and really kind of forgot about. All morning long, people kept telling me how pretty I looked today. I just keept giving them the side eye because my fall allergies are really rolling in, and I look it. Also, it's not a meeting day, so I'm on the more comfortable side of business casual (although I am wearing some snazzy red shoes). But DHEAS is a beautifier, isn't it?

Yes! You just sealed the deal, I'm getting this to add to the A-nol heavy blends, I already own.

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I have only used DHEAS twice and each time just 1 spray. I don't have any other single molecules and don't know how much is too much or too little (which is EXACTLY why I will probably stick with blends!). My thinking was that it's a spray and I could use it like Topper (until I purchase it lol- I ordered DHEAS before I learned about Topper), kind of an enhancer to what I've already got on? I think 1 spray is too few Buuut, although I didn't get self effects (not even sure what I should expect) it seems to be doing the SHAZAM on others well enough in conjunction with the blends I've worn it with.

 

Advice? Pleeease? :blush:

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I have only used DHEAS twice and each time just 1 spray. I don't have any other single molecules and don't know how much is too much or too little (which is EXACTLY why I will probably stick with blends!). My thinking was that it's a spray and I could use it like Topper (until I purchase it lol- I ordered DHEAS before I learned about Topper), kind of an enhancer to what I've already got on? I think 1 spray is too few Buuut, although I didn't get self effects (not even sure what I should expect) it seems to be doing the SHAZAM on others well enough in conjunction with the blends I've worn it with.

 

Advice? Pleeease? :blush:

You just may not get anything from it. I don't get self effects from Super Sexy, but it works, so I use it. Albeit, not as much as the blends that make me ​feel awesome, lol.

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NuTrix, i used two sprays today instead of the one I used the first day. One was good, but i think i hit my sweet spot with two. I feel freaking awesome right now, and I almost need a stick to beat people away from me. Try two!!

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I feel freaking awesome right now, and I almost need a stick to beat people away from me. Try two!!

 

Oh hell yeah :abfx: that is what it is all about...when Mama is happy,everyone is happy!!!! ...add cops :001_302:

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You just may not get anything from it. I don't get self effects from Super Sexy, but it works, so I use it. Albeit, not as much as the blends that make me ​feel awesome, lol.

 

I'm just scared of ODing, I'm not sure why, the worst is that it doesn't have any noticeable effect right? Some people describe ODing as becoming "invisble" buuuut I bumped it up to 3 sprays...except I didn't push the plunger all the way down on the last 2 LOL, so it maybe counted as a little more than 2 full sprays...no butterflies in the stomach but I did notice a mood bump (not quite a full "mood boost :lol: ) It would be nice to instantly say WOW about everything but it's ALWAYS fascinating to see the effects on others...but selfishly, I like those self effects! :^^:

 

NuTrix, i used two sprays today instead of the one I used the first day. One was good, but i think i hit my sweet spot with two. I feel freaking awesome right now, and I almost need a stick to beat people away from me. Try two!!

 

And I gotta say, BlueBear, 2 MAKES a difference! :D Next time I will just blast out 2 full sprays...heck, maybe I'll try 3 because I think I had a good 2 & 1/2 today...and see how it goes. I didn't feel the need to beat anyone off with a stick but everyone SURE seemed to be in the best of spirits! It wasn't the over the top self effects that I've gotten from some other blends but I was definitely feelin' something and it was somethin' good. Experimenting is SO much FUN!

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I wear a ton of DHEAS and I know someone who wears 4 times what I do. Unless you are sensitive or have other factors like being sick or drinking alcohol you shouldn't OD. And an OD can be much more than just ghosting. I have gotten really sick from ODs before. For me it starts with shaking and the chills.

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Experimenting is SO much FUN!

 

Absolutely !!!!!!! ...and the only way to find out what works...for you!

The only ill effect I have ever had from pheros is a headache once from too much High Octane :P A-nol ! ...I am a quick study :lol:

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I get the excited, butterflies in stomach thing. Not the shaky, alert, caffeine-like effect I get from straight alpha androstenol. It makes me feel all gleeful and giddy in a good way. Not sure yet what effect it has on others!

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I wear a ton of DHEAS and I know someone who wears 4 times what I do. Unless you are sensitive or have other factors like being sick or drinking alcohol you shouldn't OD. And an OD can be much more than just ghosting. I have gotten really sick from ODs before. For me it starts with shaking and the chills.

 

WOW! OK, a healthy respect for ODing is back in perspective after this! Better to continue to er on the side of lighter dosing than heavier. Thank you Halo, SERIOUSLY, good to know!

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Each time I read this thread, it maes me feel that I should have ordered this instead of Topper.

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Wore Perfect Match, some OCCO Ambrosia and 3 full sprays of DHEAS on my blouse. Yesterday was a good day! Hubby was uncharacteristically chipper all afternoon :D Cuddly, complimentary, touchy-feely, snuggly, good!

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Each time I read this thread, it maes me feel that I should have ordered this instead of Topper.

You will not be dissapointed in Topper !!! 50/50 A-nol & DHEAS is amazing :cat696:

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