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I'm still fairly new to this amazing phero world and I'm totally addicted. I'm sure this has been answered before, but couldn't find a thread...

I have bought pheros in scents and Unscented, OCCOs... How long do they last? Do they expire? I store them in my closet (away from heat, light etc..)

 

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From what I've read here, no. In fact they actually can "age" to become even better. I know that's true with my LP Red and my OCCO black. and the OCCO has cops in it.

 

Not sure about the pheros. Good questions

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Pheros last AGES, as long as you keep them away from heat and light. Those are the deadly enemies of pheros.

 

Stone Labs (one of our suppliers) tested their phero blends at the 3 year mark and found 0% degradation. :)

 

Scents differ. We say that our scents have a shelf life of around 6 years to be on the safe side. But some things - for example scents with a lot of delicate herbal or citrusy essential oils - may last only around 3 years. Heavier resinous blends last decades. In any case, they never get "dangerous" (someone asked about that a few months ago), the worst than can happen is they lose their freshness or dimension. When scents go "off" you start getting an undercurrent like old olive oil. Many people never even notice it, but I do.

 

And as with pheros, cool and dark preserves them the best. Your closet or under your bed are the perfect places to store them.

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Heavier resinous blends last decades

 

That's why I thought they lasted! Mine are 99% resinous/spicy blends

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That is a very long shelf life and great info to know, thanks Mara

 

Yes! Thanks for the info. As I hoard and hoard all these goodies, I was getting worried. Whew! More hoarding is ok then!

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It's ok to hoard the scents and pheros, but the Bath & Body items should be used promptly. I would probably toss any B&B item over 2 years old, but it's best if you use them within 6 months of purchase.

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Is it horrible if your scents are occasionally exposed to the light from a lamp? My perfumes are under my side coffee table for easy access, but sometimes I leave one out on my table for a few minutes. And my windows are at least ten feet away from my table. Am I making a huge mistake??

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Nooooo. I keep the stuff I use all the time out on my dresser. It's only the stuff I want to save for years in new condition that I tuck away in a dark box.

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I'm going to pin this topic for everyone's future reference.

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Here's another newbie question:

 

Do pheros have to be sprayed directly on skin to work? Or can u spray on hair/clothes too?

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Here's another newbie question:

 

Do pheros have to be sprayed directly on skin to work? Or can u spray on hair/clothes too?

 

You can spray pheros on your hair or on cloths. But remember, if the blend contains any cops, it's not advisable to spray on hair/cloths, because an unpleasant smell will remain on hair/cloths which is difficult to wash off.

From my experience, I prefer spraying the pheros on my skin (wrists, neck etc), because together with the body chemistry and body heat they seem to work better than on cloths. But at the same time, I spray a bit on my hair for better diffusion.

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How would you know if a Phero has cops in it? I love Cougar and I spray it everywhere, but I have not seen cops mentioned in its description. I think I need to create a list of all the pheros that have cops in them as well...

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Yes, Cougar, Lumina and Intellectual/w have a small amount of cops. For most phero blends, the ingredients are mentioned in the descriptions.

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The amount of cops in Cougar is very small. Doesn't normally cause an issue on hair.....now, something with BI, Sexpionage, LAM/BAM, or OCCO.......definitely not on the hair! You will probably have a hard time getting the rid of the lingering coochy-head remnants!

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Just out of curiosity, do we know the amount of cops in Audacious? Is it hair safe?

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Just out of curiosity, do we know the amount of cops in Audacious? Is it hair safe?

When I sprayed my little sample of it from last year, I thought it pretty stinky!!! But that was also the first UN phero I had ever smelled straight up like that. Shocked me a little. I was driving too so it was disconcerting.

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I guess I'll find out in a couple of weeks, when my order gets here - I have a sample coming. At present, I've only got Audacious in Far, Far Away.

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Glad this question was asked!

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This is good to know. I keep my pheros in a drawer that I rarely go in, but I keep them zip locked and bubble wrapped. I only take the one out that I am testing or wearing. I had a bad experience with some pheros (not love potion's) that were in a dropper. Before I had a chance to use them - a good portion of them evaporated. So I really wrap them with a little air as possible. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I am afraid of taking chances.

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I have LP Oils that I have bought from 2009 that are still so amazing but I'm not a delicate user, I roll that oil all over the place....

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That's good to know. I am scared of losing product. How have your sprays held up?

 

I have LP Oils that I have bought from 2009 that are still so amazing but I'm not a delicate user, I roll that oil all over the place....

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That's good to know. I am scared of losing product. How have your sprays held up?

 

My sprays are all from 2012 and the bulk of them have half the bottle or less in them, so I think most will be used up prior to year end...so those babies don't get a chance to get old....LOL

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Thanks for sharing that.

 

 

My sprays are all from 2012 and the bulk of them have half the bottle or less in them, so I think most will be used up prior to year end...so those babies don't get a chance to get old....LOL

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I have never had a problem with this, but I do protect mine really well. But when in doubt, you are right to ask and it was a good question.

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I have a question: what will happen if they are exposed to heat and light? i, too, have mine in a cool dark place, but i took a phero oil roll on with me in my purse while driving and didnt notice it had fallen out in my warm car after i'd gotten out. it was maybe an hour before i noticed and retrieved it. i took a sniff and things seemed fine, but i was just curious.

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They're not going to 'turn' overnight, but gradually the efficacy will lessen and lessen if they are not treated properly.

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This is good to know. I keep my pheros in a drawer that I rarely go in, but I keep them zip locked and bubble wrapped. I only take the one out that I am testing or wearing. I had a bad experience with some pheros (not love potion's) that were in a dropper. Before I had a chance to use them - a good portion of them evaporated. So I really wrap them with a little air as possible. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I am afraid of taking chances.

I know this is older but I have to ask wouldn't that mean it was mainly alcohol and maybe even some water, and in a bottle without a tight seal. Sounds like a really bad product.

I have all my LPs in my closet, so it's mostly dark and an even temp. My sprays are all sitting on a shelf, I don't wrap them but they have their lids, caps ect. I have not noticed any reduction.

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Good point StacyK. Now I am even angrier about buying from that particular company! I will say that the product did have an effect, just not the intended effect and I had to throw it away.

 

 

I know this is older but I have to ask wouldn't that mean it was mainly alcohol and maybe even some water, and in a bottle without a tight seal. Sounds like a really bad product.
I have all my LPs in my closet, so it's mostly dark and an even temp. My sprays are all sitting on a shelf, I don't wrap them but they have their lids, caps ect. I have not noticed any reduction.

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This is good info... I know I'm looking at buying scents off the trading post that are 3-5 years old and I was curious as to how long their scents really last.

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Does the alcohol evaporation over time make the fragrance stronger? I'm not sure I'm using the proper terminology, but I was wondering if I had something at cologne strength sitting out, would the concentration bump up to parfum strength after evaporation.

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That's an excellent question, I'd like to know as well. We'll see what the experienced members say.

 

I would say "No." I made the mistake of not storing some commercial perfume properly. When I went to use it, it was all alcohol, the scent was virtually gone. In that sense the answer would be a definite no. If the scent evaporated, there's nothing to bump up in strength.

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I know in the About Us section of the site, it says this:

 

Properly stored, our fragrances have a typical shelf life of 5-6 years.

 

Which would put us back to 2008 or 2009 fragrances. I'm curious if anyone has noticed how their oldest scents may have changed a bit (assuming there is anything left of course!)

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I know in the About Us section of the site, it says this:

 

Properly stored, our fragrances have a typical shelf life of 5-6 years.

 

Which would put us back to 2008 or 2009 fragrances. I'm curious if anyone has noticed how their oldest scents may have changed a bit (assuming there is anything left of course!)

There's a thread specific to this point, I believe. What I do remember is that if properly stored these scents or pheros can last longer than that.

Resins age very well and can last ages. I think citrus notes are among those that can degrade faster, though I have some citrus scents going back 8 years (not LP I have not been here that long) still going strong.

 

Some of my LPs have quite literally improved with age.

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They can definitely last longer than 5-6 years. Mara put that up to be safe and to just put a number on it. I have many many LPs that are older than that. Citrus and other top notes degrade the fastest. For instance I have LP Gold from the original brew. The citrus is almost entirely gone but the vanilla/amber/patch are still going strong. This is all dependent on storing them properly of course.

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This is all dependent on storing them properly of course.

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Pheros last AGES, as long as you keep them away from heat and light.

 

I have a mirror heating panel in my bedroom, can it harm my pheros and scents if I leave them on my dresser?

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I have a mirror heating panel in my bedroom, can it harm my pheros and scents if I leave them on my dresser?

 

YES! That does not sound like a good place to keep them long term!

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