New here: apply Sexpionage for sensual purpose

[enjoy4ever]

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm enjoy4ever, and I'm new here, so please forgive me if I sound like an idiot.

 

I just received the pheros from Mara last week (I'm in London, ). I'm very keen to Sexpionage and cannot wait to feel its magic. I'm seeing someone, and we normally meet at his place (which is half an hour travel by tube). I normally take shower before I left my place to meet him. It would be the easiest for me to apply the Sexpionage right after shower.

 

Question 1

BUT as it was suggested that I'd better to wear it only with my partner and not in the public, on last Friday, I did the most ...stupid thing in my life. I brought it with me to his place (I was too worried about wear it in public) during the inter-between gap, I applied phero in the batrhoom and waited for 8-9 minutes (but it felt like an hour). When I was so looking forward to some magic, nothing happened ..... he did not response at all...... even though we did have fun 2 hours later......I think the reason probably is because I might fail to apply it properly during the rush time in bathroom, and the phero may ends in my hair or cloths ....

 

Please help me on this timing issue . any suggestion on when would be the best time for me to apply: after shower abut travel in public or ..... any way I can wear it without cause trouble in public

and how long the sense could last ??? would the effect disappear after say 1 hour ?

thank you so much.....

 

 

 

Question 2

I also bought the Art of War for work purpose, I'm kind of nerd, and I'm terrible at communication, meanwhile I teach Actuarial Finance students (you can imagine how harsh they can be), so I wish this can help my class communication with them. I tried it last Thursday, it works, I'm feeling quite confidence in answering their questions. I can sense the phero worked quite well on my side. but I'm not sure whether it worked on my students, they still throw me harsh questions. Is there anything you would recommend for reducing hostility, make people more friendly? (haha , this makes them sound like devil, my apologize). Sorry but I would sincerely appreciate your help. Thank you so much.

 

Kind regards!

[BlueBear]

Welcome!!

 

To answer your first question: You should definitely still have effects after an hour. I've had effects as much as 12 hours after application. But perhaps I'm misunderstanding...didn't you say that you ended up having fun a couple of hours later...? It sounds like it worked to me! What makes you think that it didn't work?

 

I've never tried Sexpionage, so i haven't seen firsthand the effects that it has on men, but if it were me, I'd apply it after my shower at home (wouldn't want to risk stinking up his place!!!), let it dry down for at least 20 to 30 minutes, then apply my cover scent and then go over to his place. I would just be superaware of my surroundings, travel in well lit areas, and go directly to his house. Others may have different opinions, though.

 

You second question: I think Art of War with the Swimming with the Sharks phero is good. You might also try something with Open Windows. Actually, I think I'd prefer it. You can find it in Stealing Heaven and this month's Levitation. But I think the issue is probably that you're not dispersing the phero enough. If this is like a traditional class and you're standing at the front teaching, they're not getting enough of the phero. You might try walking up and down the aisles so they can get a good hit. Or if possible, try one of the phero enhanced wax melts to scent the whole room.

 

Again, welcome!!!

[Eggers]

To all of it.

I'd add that, for me at least, Super Sexy also makes people behave a little friendlier toward me, male *and* female. But Open Windows would definitely be my first choice. And though I haven't tried the wax tarts (yet), they're supposed to be very effective in large spaces.

 

[quietguy]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I think the advice BB gave you is very good.

 

The big thing to remember is that pheromones are not like a Harry Potter magic potion you apply to yourself and people start doing whatever. They are more like whispered suggestions - and it is up to you to get people to act on those whispers. Now some of these whispers are certainly stronger than others lol. But there is a lot of inter-personal relationship and social interactions involved when you use pheromones. You cannot just throw them on and sit back, do nothing, and expect something wild to happen around you. Sometimes that does happen but not usually.

 

Examples: I can throw on on some strong sexual pheromones, but if I sit in a corner and frown at people then they are going to react to to my actions more then my pheromone signature and stay away from me. I can do the same and go to a restaurant with my wife, but if I act like "business as usual", then she will probably react to that more then the pheromones. But if I start flirting a little with her, then that combined with the pheromones, will certainly set the stage for later. But even with the strongest pheromones on, she is not going to have sex with me right there on the table no matter what I say or do.

 

It sounds like the Sexpionage did work after all. But there are a lot of questions: Were the two of you together before you applied the pheromones? Have you known this guy for long? What did you do or say when you came out of the bathroom? But again, if you had a great time, then the Sexpionage was probably doing what pheromones do - operate quietly in the background while you use your social skills to aim the interactions in the directions you want them to go.

Edited April 22, 2013 by quietguy

[MissHazel]

^That was an awesome post.

 

I need to be reminded of this sometimes.

 

I don't have experience with Sexpionage UN.

I find I only need the 20-30 minutes dry down time for jouir De/essence of woman/coplins (they're all the same thing, right? jouir de is just the perfume version yes?)

 

The rest, I just spritz or oil my perfume on, then spray my sprays, let it dry for a few minutes then go about my business.

 

And I didn't think Sexpionage was one of the ones you had to be super careful about getting it in your hair and clothes, is it?

 

Since you're a professor, I would definitely get some wax tarts and a little heater for your office hours (but leave the door open so you don't hotbox yourself and OD)

and if you can, also bring one to class.

I know that's kind of hard though because your classroom might be used right before your class begins. If it doesn't, I'd come in maybe 15-20 minutes early to the classroom,

plug in your heater candle, maybe in the back, grade some papers or read until people start coming in. Then I'd move the burner to the front of the class (so you have some

diffusion going on) and leave it turned on up there until end of class.

 

Which, considering how much time I've spent on classrooms, is not a bad idea at all because pretty much all classrooms don't smell that great.

Edited April 22, 2013 by MissHazel

[BlueBear]

 

And I didn't think Sexpionage was one of the ones you had to be super careful about getting it in your hair and clothes, is it?

 

 

YES! Sexpionage has a ton of cops in it. The only cops I've ever put in my hair is Cougar (I think we know that it has a smidge in it) and the late Lumina.

[MissHazel]

ooo! Good to know. I have that coming. Okay, cool. Thanks for the heads up!

[luna65]

I find I only need the 20-30 minutes dry down time for jouir De/essence of woman/coplins (they're all the same thing, right? jouir de is just the perfume version yes?)

Jouir de is a perfume with copulins added, but Essence of Woman is not an LPMP product, technically.

[enjoy4ever]

Welcome!!

 

To answer your first question: You should definitely still have effects after an hour. I've had effects as much as 12 hours after application. But perhaps I'm misunderstanding...didn't you say that you ended up having fun a couple of hours later...? It sounds like it worked to me! What makes you think that it didn't work?

 

I've never tried Sexpionage, so i haven't seen firsthand the effects that it has on men, but if it were me, I'd apply it after my shower at home (wouldn't want to risk stinking up his place!!!), let it dry down for at least 20 to 30 minutes, then apply my cover scent and then go over to his place. I would just be superaware of my surroundings, travel in well lit areas, and go directly to his house. Others may have different opinions, though.

 

You second question: I think Art of War with the Swimming with the Sharks phero is good. You might also try something with Open Windows. Actually, I think I'd prefer it. You can find it in Stealing Heaven and this month's Levitation. But I think the issue is probably that you're not dispersing the phero enough. If this is like a traditional class and you're standing at the front teaching, they're not getting enough of the phero. You might try walking up and down the aisles so they can get a good hit. Or if possible, try one of the phero enhanced wax melts to scent the whole room.

 

Again, welcome!!!

 

Hi Bluebear,

 

Thank you so much for your reply. It is very helpful. haha, and I don't know the pheroms can last that long. But we did have much wilder fun when I applied it. So guess it did work, but just I did not notice it And thanks for the tips, I will definitely try after the shower next time. And can I buy the wax in mara's website? haha, there are so many stuff and I always lost in the product lists.

 

haha ..for the open windows, I guess I just made my next order list, lol.... I did walk around the room, probably I did not wear enough. But today I received students' emails in appreciating the last class for the difficult subjects. This is really not common lol maybe I just underestimated the little magic thank you so much.

 

Kind regards!

 

ps. wish we can have LP retailer in London? it was soooooooooo upsetting to wait more than one month to get your stuff ;(

[enjoy4ever]

To all of it.

I'd add that, for me at least, Super Sexy also makes people behave a little friendlier toward me, male *and* female. But Open Windows would definitely be my first choice. And though I haven't tried the wax tarts (yet), they're supposed to be very effective in large spaces.

 

Thank you Kittenish, with you and other reccom, open windows will definitely be my next choice any advice when I apply it? does it need a lot, I used aroud 2-3 spraies last time.Do you think its sufficient?

[BlueBear]

Hi Bluebear,

 

Thank you so much for your reply. It is very helpful. haha, and I don't know the pheroms can last that long. But we did have much wilder fun when I applied it. So guess it did work, but just I did not notice it And thanks for the tips, I will definitely try after the shower next time. And can I buy the wax in mara's website? haha, there are so many stuff and I always lost in the product lists.

 

haha ..for the open windows, I guess I just made my next order list, lol.... I did walk around the room, probably I did not wear enough. But today I received students' emails in appreciating the last class for the difficult subjects. This is really not common lol maybe I just underestimated the little magic thank you so much.

 

Kind regards!

 

ps. wish we can have LP retailer in London? it was soooooooooo upsetting to wait more than one month to get your stuff ;(

 

I bolded the two important things in your response. It did work and you did notice it! On both accounts! That's awesome!! Keep going with what's working rather than changing it up. But remember what QG said. It's not going to cause him to throw you up against the wall and have sex with you, if that's what you're looking for. But it sounds like both were successful for you.

[Eggers]

 

 

Thank you Kittenish, with you and other reccom, open windows will definitely be my next choice any advice when I apply it? does it need a lot, I used aroud 2-3 spraies last time.Do you think its sufficient?

 

I think you could probably start with 2 or 3 sprays and see how that works for you. If you're not getting the desired effects, you could try slowly increasing the number of sprays. This is a social blend, with no copulins, so it's safe to spray in your hair and on your clothes, which might help with diffusing the scent in the room as you move around.

 

Personally, I've been using the roll-on Open Windows, (in the scent, Stealing Heaven), but I work up close with people, so I don't worry so much about the diffusion. I do think that when I buy the UNscented OW, I will buy a spray.

 

As far as when to apply it - I think if you're using a spray, the pheros should last (correct me, someone, if I'm wrong), about 2-3 hours, maybe just a little longer. You could apply shortly before your class begins, or you could apply in the morning, and then reapply before class. I guess it depends on whether you want the phero effects all day, or specifically for that class.

 

Good luck! And have fun! I think you will really love Open Windows.

 

Edited to add that the wax tarts can be found on another of Mara's sites called Artfire, and I think that they're listed under the heading "Home Fragrances". Hope that helps!

Edited April 22, 2013 by Eggers

[MissHazel]

 

ps. wish we can have LP retailer in London? it was soooooooooo upsetting to wait more than one month to get your stuff ;(

 

 

yeah, but isn't Rosebud out that way? She's got one of the most kickass trade threads here, so DEFINITELY check that out.

Edited April 22, 2013 by MissHazel

[Chaionlife]

I bolded the two important things in your response. It did work and you did notice it! On both accounts! That's awesome!! Keep going with what's working rather than changing it up. But remember what QG said. It's not going to cause him to throw you up against the wall and have sex with you, if that's what you're looking for. But it sounds like both were successful for you.

The wall thing... YUP! Sexpionage CAN do that! Pretty wild responses... course, I have MAJOR self effects from Sexpionage... and I'm sure that is pretty obvious to My Beloved so, for me, the effects are very pronounced. Sexpionage is one of those blends I CAN'T wear out of the house because it makes me extremely focused on ONLY ONE THING! Far too distracting in any location outside of somewhere where that one thing is readily accessible....

[Calii]

Not much I could add to the most excellent advice already given...and QG that was perfect!!

 

Welcome to the forum and do check out the trading post,both Rosebud and CinnamonMel live nearer you!!

[enjoy4ever]

Welcome to the forum.

 

I think the advice BB gave you is very good.

 

The big thing to remember is that pheromones are not like a Harry Potter magic potion you apply to yourself and people start doing whatever. They are more like whispered suggestions - and it is up to you to get people to act on those whispers. Now some of these whispers are certainly stronger than others lol. But there is a lot of inter-personal relationship and social interactions involved when you use pheromones. You cannot just throw them on and sit back, do nothing, and expect something wild to happen around you. Sometimes that does happen but not usually.

 

Examples: I can throw on on some strong sexual pheromones, but if I sit in a corner and frown at people then they are going to react to to my actions more then my pheromone signature and stay away from me. I can do the same and go to a restaurant with my wife, but if I act like "business as usual", then she will probably react to that more then the pheromones. But if I start flirting a little with her, then that combined with the pheromones, will certainly set the stage for later. But even with the strongest pheromones on, she is not going to have sex with me right there on the table no matter what I say or do.

 

It sounds like the Sexpionage did work after all. But there are a lot of questions: Were the two of you together before you applied the pheromones? Have you known this guy for long? What did you do or say when you came out of the bathroom? But again, if you had a great time, then the Sexpionage was probably doing what pheromones do - operate quietly in the background while you use your social skills to aim the interactions in the directions you want them to go.

 

Hi Quiteguy, thank you so much for the professional suggestions. and it was very true I might expect it as Harry Potter's magic show. But as you said, interaction is quite key for the pheros to play. I did not said a word when I out of the bathroom, we just watched the TV quietly. then we had some chats, and ..... (haha , flirting is very important, lol)

 

A little about us: we have been known each other for around 3 years (there is 1 year gap since I was away from London) and romantically involved for 1.5 years. I'm 26, and he is 31.... But neither of us want to get serious or settle down. We just want to keep things simple and casual.... recently I just felt everything became so routine and I was a bit upset for no reason (I did not tell him this)..... so I was expecting this can make it more fun.... either physically or emotionally....

 

I guess it was my original naive view that pheros cannot last long that caused this posts, but I got all your professional advice Thank you so much.... after all now everything makes sense: we met on Friday late evening (had fun). I applied the phero on Saturday morning, then we had fun . afterwards we went out for lunch, one thing I noticed was that he helped carrying my heavy leather handbag. he never did that before as he said it was too girly (I was so curious at that time what changed him lol, now I guess probly is the phero)..... then we had nice hand-made Italian Ice-cream, and enjoyed the precious sunshine in park . It was quite a enjoyable Saturday afternoon.

 

I know Sexg was recommend for sensual purpose, but from my experience, it might also help with our emotional feeling and communication (maybe becos of some other blend inside) : I just felt we both can let everything go, and enjoy the company of each other (as before, we always talks about work or something irrelevant to each other) I know it sounds like I'm magnifying the fact, but I don't know, it may becos of the pheros, or the sunshine? (you know people get depressed in UK as we do not see the sun often ......... lol .. ) Guess I still have long LP adventure journey to go lol

 

Thank you very much!

[luna65]

I did not said a word when I out of the bathroom, we just watched the TV quietly. then we had some chats, and ..... (haha , flirting is very important, lol)

Yeah see there's the problem right there: if you put on Sexpionage, you need to have the agenda already in place and it should be a perceived outcome. What it will do, then, is intensify his libido and therefore the actual sex. But the impulse WILL NOT spring out of nowhere or a different context.

[enjoy4ever]

^That was an awesome post.

 

I need to be reminded of this sometimes.

 

I don't have experience with Sexpionage UN.

I find I only need the 20-30 minutes dry down time for jouir De/essence of woman/coplins (they're all the same thing, right? jouir de is just the perfume version yes?)

 

The rest, I just spritz or oil my perfume on, then spray my sprays, let it dry for a few minutes then go about my business.

 

And I didn't think Sexpionage was one of the ones you had to be super careful about getting it in your hair and clothes, is it?

 

Since you're a professor, I would definitely get some wax tarts and a little heater for your office hours (but leave the door open so you don't hotbox yourself and OD)

and if you can, also bring one to class.

I know that's kind of hard though because your classroom might be used right before your class begins. If it doesn't, I'd come in maybe 15-20 minutes early to the classroom,

plug in your heater candle, maybe in the back, grade some papers or read until people start coming in. Then I'd move the burner to the front of the class (so you have some

diffusion going on) and leave it turned on up there until end of class.

 

Which, considering how much time I've spent on classrooms, is not a bad idea at all because pretty much all classrooms don't smell that great.

 

Hi Miss Hazel

 

Haha, thank you so much for your valuable suggestion from a lecturer's perspective. and your student (me) now has fully learn the way to apply the pheors in class from your vivid illustration. Thank you very much.

 

I hav't tried any other women copulins yet (thanks to the international post charges) , but definitely gonna to buy more in the nearly futurelol

 

I'm not a professor yet (probably will be in one day )......I'm actually still finishing my PhD degree, and I do lecture MSc students for relevant courses. One question,how your students' reacted to the heart candle ??? I originally thought it was kind of heart shape necklace with pheros inside; after reading all the content, I was ...stunned... haha .... you are amazing, my students would kill me if I'm gonna put a candle in class, probably becos they are all older and maturer than me, and they expect me to be as professional as they do..how was your students' ? haha, maybe we can share some teaching experience....... thanks

[enjoy4ever]

I bolded the two important things in your response. It did work and you did notice it! On both accounts! That's awesome!! Keep going with what's working rather than changing it up. But remember what QG said. It's not going to cause him to throw you up against the wall and have sex with you, if that's what you're looking for. But it sounds like both were successful for you.

 

haha, thanks for this. forgive my previous naive and stupid view regarding the timing of pheros at first. I learned a lot here. Thank you so much. One crucial thing I learned from QG is that communication (flirting/interaction) is quite crucial for the pheors to work, especially the mood of the subjects who are wearing it.....

 

now I'm very looking forward to Thursday's class since I will have some good and bad news for the class, even though my communication normally sucks, but I will try my usual way of black humor, plust our lovely LP pheors.... wish I have a normal/peaceful Thursday. Fingers crossed, :lol

[enjoy4ever]

I think you could probably start with 2 or 3 sprays and see how that works for you. If you're not getting the desired effects, you could try slowly increasing the number of sprays. This is a social blend, with no copulins, so it's safe to spray in your hair and on your clothes, which might help with diffusing the scent in the room as you move around.

 

Personally, I've been using the roll-on Open Windows, (in the scent, Stealing Heaven), but I work up close with people, so I don't worry so much about the diffusion. I do think that when I buy the UNscented OW, I will buy a spray.

 

As far as when to apply it - I think if you're using a spray, the pheros should last (correct me, someone, if I'm wrong), about 2-3 hours, maybe just a little longer. You could apply shortly before your class begins, or you could apply in the morning, and then reapply before class. I guess it depends on whether you want the phero effects all day, or specifically for that class.

 

Good luck! And have fun! I think you will really love Open Windows.

 

Edited to add that the wax tarts can be found on another of Mara's sites called Artfire, and I think that they're listed under the heading "Home Fragrances". Hope that helps!

 

Thank you Eggers, this is really useful information and tips, especially for a newb like me I'm all writing them down in my little LP notebook, guess in the future I will have a topic in sharing this little note book, haha ;lol suddenly wish I live in the states. how could Britain do not have something so wonderful .....

[enjoy4ever]

Yeah see there's the problem right there: if you put on Sexpionage, you need to have the agenda already in place and it should be a perceived outcome. What it will do, then, is intensify his libido and therefore the actual sex. But the impulse WILL NOT spring out of nowhere or a different context.

 

My dear Luna,

 

Thank you very much for the wonderful products from LPMP. I'm addicted to it already...

 

And thank you so much for QG and others' replies, especially helpful for newb like me.

 

The lessen is definitely learned, haha.....guess I was too brave in choosing the sexpionage to start with and it seems I have loads to learn and explore here. thanks again.

 

Kind regards!

[enjoy4ever]

Welcome to the forum and do check out the trading post,both Rosebud and CinnamonMel live nearer you!!

 

Thanks for this information, it is super helpful. Thank you.

[enjoy4ever]

The wall thing... YUP! Sexpionage CAN do that! Pretty wild responses... Far too distracting in any location outside of somewhere where that one thing is readily accessible....

 

... ........OMG~~~~~~~!!! Even though I'm not looking for such wild sex, but I'm sooooooooo tempted to know your way of applying the sexpionage, I did not have strong self-effect when I applied.....please please.....

[JOC]

Hi Enjoy4ever, welcome to the forum!

 

I have used UN Sexiponage a few times and I prefer using Compromising Position which is boosted with Sexiponage. The number of times I wore the UN, I waited for more than 20 minutes to let it dry completely. In late spring to early autumn, I use a fan to expedite the drying down process but I guess a hairdryer might do the trick as well.

 

The bathroom stinks after the application so I'd never do apply the UN at your friend's apartment. I usually keep my bathroom window wide opened afterwards and sometimes, I light a scented candle in the bathroom to get rid of the stench.

 

As with most pheros and scents, I usually roll the bottle from (around) my collarbone down to my belly button and smear the liquid with both wrists. In the last couple of months, I have been mixing pheros/cops with body lotion and slather the mixture all over my body then wait for 20 mins or so before I get dressed.

 

You are rather young so I'm not entirely sure if you need as much cops as I do but have fun and enjoy your scent and phero journey here!

[dolphindolls2]

I use Compromising Positions all the time and it has Sexpionage in it and I wear it out in public all the time. This is one that I get hits all the time with....It makes me feel confident, in charge and in control... I love it