Tinkerbelle

Eeeekkkk!!! An email is coming SOON! WOO!!

Thanks!!

I am just going to say that TG got a good whiff of the PM/Phero Girl/extra DHEAS today..and um...no...it didn't stop the crushiness. In fact, today was one of the best days I have had with him in a looooooooong time.

I want to play the guessing game. Who will join me? I’m not great with Notes but... I am going to guess that Zakura has a prominent cherry blossom note. Amethyst haze makes me think Lavender. Spring Blossom has me thinking Jasmine because of the Hedione, I guess. Soleil is giving me a honey impression. I’m going full pink sugars on Laloo! Ohana is giving me a coconut feel....maybe with cocoa butter.

From what I read, it didn't make them feel the opposite, it just inhibited the "crush" effects that came from androstadienone. And this wasn't a study or anything...it was what a few men experienced in trying to get women to fall for them using that particular molecule with the addition of DHEAS. So it could have just been that the women had no preexisting feelings for them anyway and they assumed the phero wasn't working. This is why I like to get a LOT of people's experiences to read about. You really may never know the full backstory when someone says this or that doesn't work. But even what I read didn't seem to make the women have a negative response, it just didn't make them fall head over heels like the guys wanted. ETA: Some of the men in the forum (not this one) had experienced what they called "fallout" (the crushiness) with androstadienone. They felt like adding DHEAS made it not happen. I can't remember all the details, but that is the gist.

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing.

Ok....So I know I am digging up an old thread here, but I’ve been reading everything I can find on perfect match because I am somewhat enthralled with it. I have used it by itself, with cops, and with LFM and variations of combos Trying to see how it works best for me with my TG. I always get good results from it, though the tweaking obviously change things up. I have seen him act as if he was under the crush effects of perfect match, but I’m wondering how long this lasts. I realize that there is more to building the relationship and that you stated pheromones cannot fix everything that was wrong, but outside of those issues that could not be overcome, did you notice that you felt those feelings consistently or maybe I should say did they linger? Did they fade once you were out of her presence and out of the perfect match cloud? I have found that if I can be around him consistently for a while, even if we are apart for days after that extended exposure, he seems to still be affected When I see him again. For example, we had to work on a project together for several days in a row. This is rare that we see each other consistently like that. Once the project was over, we didn’t see each other again for maybe three days, but when I pulled into the parking lot That day, he saw me pull in as he was going in and he stopped and waited for me which was not the norm at that time. We have always had a really strong connection anyway, but due to some personal circumstances, we took a step back in the progression of our relationship. I say that because anytime we get to be together, that connection and closeness is still very obvious with or without the pheromones. But he Seems more open to expressing it with perfect match at play. So I was just wondering what your experience was in terms of how long those feelings lasted when you were using the perfect match with your ex. I am also glad you shared that because I had read it elsewhere that the DHEAS can prevent those crushy feelings from manifesting. I also had only heard of the Androstadienone creating that effect in women but had not heard any proof that it did the same to a man.

I am DYING to see the notes on the LFM and PM ones!! AAHH!! And I am excited for a sampler because I've never tried Popularity Potion! WOO!

Stalk stalk... I have no idea what is coming, but I would LOOOOOOVE a soft, feminine scent that is a good carry, but not overpowering, for Perfect Match.

I will say, I don't think using Gotcha in a spray like this is bad for out in public. A lot of people use it that way. It is very social with a sexual leaning, but it is not full on sex potion by any means. Lots of people wear it at work for the bonding effect it has on their customers, etc.

I agree that this version is preferable....to me. I like them both, but there is something deeper about this version and maybe it IS the Aja. Maybe is is the psychological affect of the phero making me THINK that?? lol. But seriously, they are different. Maybe get a sample of the non-phero'd one to decide for yourself.

So, I randomly go back and retry things and today I gave this a whirl. It smelled sooooooooooo good initially. But after it dried down, it went very play-doughy on me. Now, I don't typically like bananas or smelling them, so I thought that was making me not love it, but I couldn't really pull that scent out. It just went wonky. Sad. I am probably pre-week, too, so I will give it another go at another time of the month. But for now...no go.

Can’t say from experience, I am pretty sure that I have read where women using compromising positiono have experienced this. That is a scented blend including the phero sexpionage Which can also be ordered unscented.

OK so I’m going way back in the archives here. Not sure if anyone knows the answer to this or if our KeyMaster still pops in, but I am curious as to the oxytocin release. Which one of the pheromone components causes this?

I say tell it here.

That is DEFINITELY my plan!

So I have a list of what I refer to as my staples and try to keep them on hand. And I have gotten good to great results with all of them with my TG at some point, but I am still trying to figure out which is the BEST for us. Right now, I'd have to go with 1 - Perfect Match 2 - LFN 3 - Phero Girl Due to consistency as much as the quality of effects. Those never fail me. I have gotten AMAZING results with Heart & Soul, WHEN it works. Usually always get the compliments, etc. A couple weeks ago I got awesome hits, then wore it again in the same amount, same scent, same people, same place and got NADA. So I can't even tell ya what happened there. lol. But I think H&S would be my #4 if I had to choose because when I DO get hits, they are really great.

Thanks, ladies! So my reasoning is right in that it would get it out there more, BUT wouldn't necessarily be ideal for a roll on bottle. BUT if I put it in a spray bottle to keep it secured, but removed the sprayer to apply by dabbing it on or something...that would accomplish my goal, I think.

So, I was wondering if any of you had ever added alcohol to your oils but still used them as a roll-on instead of a spray? My thought process behind this, which may be way off, is that the alcohol will have a better diffusion, but if you are using it with something like the OCCOs, you wouldn't be spraying it into the air and risk getting it in your hair, etc. or just have it lingering in the air. Would doing this actually create a greater diffusion or is that only the effect of it being a spray? I would think that unless you sprayed it where you were at the moment you wanted to affect someone, it would work the same way. I know my thought process may be coming across kind of rambly...but I am hoping it my question is clear. Thanks for any experiences you could share or how you THINK it would work.

This starts off super lavender forward for me. Like I’m sniffing my EO bottle. The first time I tried it, it evolved very well into a really nice mix where nothing stood out individually. Today it is stuck in lavender land. It’s PMS week so that could have something to do with it. I’m gonna let it sit for a little while and try again and hope I can get back that First impression of it.

I love this!!! I got a trial vial and am going to have to go FB on this. I love Pherogirl and Sugared Honeycomb but this....this is RICH. This may be the only OCCO I love on its own. I layer the others and will probably layer this too but I COULD and probably will try it alone. Oh, TG, I’m coming for you, love,

My package wasn't supposed to arrive until today but it came on Sat, and I am pretty sure I OD'd from oversniffing!!

Aww!! I'd love to hear more about that if you don't mind sharing. I actually started a thread asking for personal stories like that awhile back. If you don't want to share, I totally understand that, too. I think I am going to pull this out on TG again. Now that I have learned it HAS to be tempered for me (I can't use the UN straight - I become a weepy, emotional nightmare), I think I can work it in some of the scented versions. I had been using it with LFN because that seemed to be a good buffer and together I got great results. But I want to see if Gotcha yields anything for me without the LFN. I'm coming up on the PMS week, so I have to be careful with that, too. But I may give it a whirl this week and see what happens...if anything.

Got my email!! WOO!! That was SUPER fast, guys! BRAVO!!

Oh my goodness, I had another awesome incident that I am attributing in part to the H&S. I also used OCCO White in my cleavage but not very much. I had a teeny dab of H&S UN on my neck (basically what I could get off the rim of an empty bottle), and 3 sprays of H&S UN mixed with Sugared Lavender on the back of my neck. This was my own mix that I made in a tiny bottle, so it might have been 1.5 - 2 sprays of a regular bottle. I am attributing it in part to the fact that TG and I have been having private message conversations more often and they have taken some naughty turns. But that aside, he is STILL super careful at work. However, today was different. It started off with me passing by TG a couple of times with nothing more than a head nod kind of greeting. We were going opposite directions and both had places to be. I DO think, however, that the H&S and Occo was wafting his way to get things going. The next time I saw him, he was talking to someone else so I just passed by casually by. Then, about an hour later, I passed him again and THIS time, he made an effort to get my attention, smile HUGE, eyebrows raised to the ceiling, and say, "Heeeeyyy!" I kinda laughed and said hey back, then went to get a seat in one of our meetings. And then it happened. This has not happened in a VEEEEERRRYYYY long time. He came into the meeting and sat down RIGHT BESIDE ME. Usually, he is either behind me, in front of me, or a few seats down. Ya'll, I felt my body heat rising and I thought, "He is SOOO getting hit with the cops right now." It kinda felt like we kept leaning closer to each other. He kept making jokes during the meeting. Made sure to hang around afterwards and spend time talking....which is NOT normal for our work place interactions. He didn't leave until someone needed him for something. Then later I was talking with another lady and he passed by, and I glanced up just as he turned around and looked back at me with this odd grin on his face. It was a priceless day. Besides those interactions, our CEO came up to me at another point in the day just to say hello. This is not odd because I am fairly high up in the company and he and I communicate regularly. BUT...the look he gave me once he got in my space...I have NEVER seen him look that way. Almost like I had two heads and he couldn't stop looking at me. I am face to face with this man a lot...we've traveled together on business trips...there is NOTHING besides a working relationship/friendship there for either of us. But I say that to say, I know him well...his faces...his reactions. And this one was definitely new. Inside I was just laughing away. And yes, I have worn cops around him before, and still not seen that face. lol. I think it was the H&S more than the cops in this particular case because I hardly ever wear it. I am sitting on my bottle and trying to use it sparingly. Couldn't swing another one with the pherotine order BUT it is on my list to get another bottle next go round. I think I am not using this to its full potential often enough.