Guest Pharmacom Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I have a bottle of 50mcg per spray Estratetraenol.....Anyhows, this stuff is supposed to be really potent even in eensy doses. I tried it at 50mcg (one spray) it did nothing I could detect. At these levels I could not smell the pheros at all. But even at (oen spray) .5 mcg with cover my step-mother said I smelled of urine. Some folk just seem more sensitive than others. It did put me off the Est though. I'm sorry to say that I think you have been duped.. I would suggest you return it.. The urine like odor suggests it is androstenone. 50 mcg per spray is very weak for estratetraenol.. the effective content is more like 175-225 mcg per spray. If you want to see what's really in it, I know of a good lab that will do an analysis of the formula, and tell you with 99% accuracy what's in it.. They charge about $70, I think.. The company name is steraloids, inc., in Rhode Island. I think Mara is planning to offer a line of many different concentrates (I.e. est, -nol, -rone, -stanone, -none, -dienone, etc).. If so, then she may soon offer very high quality, and very potent concentrates.. Edited February 13, 2008 by Potion Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I'm sorry to say that I think you have been duped.. I would suggest you return it.. The urine like odor suggests it is androstenone. 50 mcg per spray is very weak for estratetraenol.. the effective content is more like 175-225 mcg per spray. If you want to see what's really in it, I know of a good lab that will do an analysis of the formula, and tell you with 99% accuracy what's in it.. They charge about $70, I think.. The company name is steraloids, inc., in Rhode Island. I think Mara is planning to offer a line of many different concentrates (I.e. est, -nol, -rone, -stanone, -none, -dienone, etc).. If so, then she may soon offer very high quality, and very potent concentrates.. Thanks for this, very interesting. I could detect no real odour, but my step-mother could. If this is the case then spending money to get it analysed would be throwing good money after bad. I know others here have bought the same product from the same supplier and reported good results at those doses. It did nothing for me though, until now I have thought it was just me, as I vendor has a reputation for being very trustworthy. No matter! I've been told that Realm contained Est in truly weeny doses and a lot of guys loved Realm. Maybe EST and I just don't get along! I think I will stick to my nols which work for me - and low doses of cops. Oh, and try out the new Pharmacom/ LP combos of course! Hugs May Edited February 13, 2008 by May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 hi Pharmacom, I tried revisiting your website and I see that Google is posting a warning about malware coming from your site ... maybe something you should take up with Google? just a heads-up in case you weren't aware. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=p...amp;btnG=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pharmacom Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 hi Pharmacom, I tried revisiting your website and I see that Google is posting a warning about malware coming from your site ... maybe something you should take up with Google? just a heads-up in case you weren't aware. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=p...amp;btnG=Search I'm kind of uncomfortable with having Mara's customers looking at my products for sale.. There is a lot of useful and detailed information on my site, but please don't spend your money with Pharmacom products.. Mara's new line of concentrates, etc. should be up and running in no time, so I'd rather you all just wait until you can order it through Love Potion.. Your patronage to Love Potion will also help Mara to bring the project along faster, and to get newer & more interesting technologies on LP.. As far as the malware - not too long ago some hacker injected a trojan into the source code.. We had fixed this about 2 months ago, so this warning must be very old.. You should try refreshing your browser cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I'm kind of uncomfortable with having Mara's customers looking at my products for sale.. There is a lot of useful and detailed information on my site, but please don't spend your money with Pharmacom products.. Mara's new line of concentrates, etc. should be up and running in no time, so I'd rather you all just wait until you can order it through Love Potion.. Your patronage to Love Potion will also help Mara to bring the project along faster, and to get newer & more interesting technologies on LP.. As far as the malware - not too long ago some hacker injected a trojan into the source code.. We had fixed this about 2 months ago, so this warning must be very old.. You should try refreshing your browser cache. I've known about your company for quite a while from conversations at Love-Scent and Pherotalk, as well as offsite conversations with forum members from those 2 sites, and have accessed your site numerous times in the past. I appreciate your position vis-a-vis Love Potion, of course. I became curious after reading your suspicion that May had been "duped" with her EST, so I wanted to see your current offerings. In any case, I ignored the warnings from Google and went to your site ... and my browser froze. I ran a scan for adware and cleaned all that up, then emptied my firefox browser cache, and a new Google search on your company name still displays the warnings I mentioned before. Just an FYI - Google will review your site upon your request and perhaps remove the warnings. best of luck, Carrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pharmacom Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 In any case, I ignored the warnings from Google and went to your site ... and my browser froze. I ran a scan for adware and cleaned all that up, then emptied my firefox browser cache, and a new Google search on your company name still displays the warnings I mentioned before. Just an FYI - Google will review your site upon your request and perhaps remove the warnings. Carrie Ok.. please hold off on visiting site to the site until I check it out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Mr Pharmacom is being very sweet about competing with us, but as I told him, I have been, and plan to continue to be, completely open about the suppliers of the pheromone products we are using. Our upcoming releases for this month will feature not only Pharmacom products, but also Essence of Woman and Androtics products, and will be credited as such on our site and on our labels, just as we have done before. I have no problem promoting these very fine products and companies - they send business our way and we send business their way - it's all good. So anyway, I have spent most of this day on the phone with manufacturers and suppliers and the like, working out the details in order to be able to offer the pure phero juice - so now I have packages winging their way towards me from all over the country. We're definitely going to do it. We're committed now, and we're going to do it. However, I am not going to disclose any more info at this time, because I want to get all these things in my hands first. We are going to do this in a slightly different way than the other companies, a little more in keeping with our own vibe with regard to the inert ingredients used and the packaging. So there. I've said enough, and more than I intended. Will update you when the time comes. xoxoxox Mara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pharmacom Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Ok.. So there was a new hacker script in the website after all.. I've just cleaned it out and google is reviewing the site again.. it will take about a day before the "harmful content" warning goes away, but rest assured that the site is now clean.. The script was for a benign advertising bot, but just to be on the safe side you might want to run "Spybot - search & destroy" to remove anything picked up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 So there. I've said enough, and more than I intended. Will update you when the time comes. xoxoxox Mara Mara, as always, you're the *BEST*!! Thanks for keeping the Cougars (and other assorted Whippersnappers) informed! Hugs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Mr Pharmacom is being very sweet about competing with us, but as I told him, I have been, and plan to continue to be, completely open about the suppliers of the pheromone products we are using. Our upcoming releases for this month will feature not only Pharmacom products, but also Essence of Woman™ and Androtics products, and will be credited as such on our site and on our labels, just as we have done before. I have no problem promoting these very fine products and companies - they send business our way and we send business their way - it's all good. So anyway, I have spent most of this day on the phone with manufacturers and suppliers and the like, working out the details in order to be able to offer the pure phero juice - so now I have packages winging their way towards me from all over the country. We're definitely going to do it. We're committed now, and we're going to do it. However, I am not going to disclose any more info at this time, because I want to get all these things in my hands first. We are going to do this in a slightly different way than the other companies, a little more in keeping with our own vibe with regard to the inert ingredients used and the packaging. So there. I've said enough, and more than I intended. Will update you when the time comes. xoxoxox Mara OOOOOOOH, such a tantalizing update....... I can't wait......on the edge of my seat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaionlife Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 OOOOOOOH, such a tantalizing update....... I can't wait......on the edge of my seat..... And, I will join you there... we can perch together! That is, Ms. Wicked Witch, if the flying monkeys leave us any room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 And, I will join you there... we can perch together! That is, Ms. Wicked Witch, if the flying monkeys leave us any room hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 And, I will join you there... we can perch together! That is, Ms. Wicked Witch, if the flying monkeys leave us any room Maybe I'm just being dense, but I have racked my brains and I just can't remember the flying monkeys. May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Maybe I'm just being dense, but I have racked my brains and I just can't remember the flying monkeys. May Get a copy of the Wizard of Oz......the Witch of the West's faithful servants...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Get a copy of the Wizard of Oz......the Witch of the West's faithful servants...... and if you were *lucky* enough to have been exposed to them at a tender young age, they will creep you out for a lifetime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfallen Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 The movie creeped me out WAY more. SO disorienting when you don't speak English--like, WTF is happening???? Why is that girl ruining EVERYTHING? That freaked me out more than the witch. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I've always loved the Wicked Witch, and finally in "Tinman"(21 century version of The wiz/oz, but DG is still the "hero") she is finally beautiful, wicked but beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) I've always loved the Wicked Witch, and finally in "Tinman"(21 century version of The wiz/oz, but DG is still the "hero") she is finally beautiful, wicked but beautiful. I loved the munchkins - is that right? They were right at the beginning.. May (edit - and I so wanted a pair of those red, sparkly shoes.... But with killer high heels on them! ) Edited February 14, 2008 by May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I loved the munchkins - is that right? They were right at the beginning.. May (edit - and I so wanted a pair of those red, sparkly shoes.... But with killer high heels on them! ) Yeah, those were the munchkins......I am really short, so I can identify with them...... If I find a pair of ruby slippers, I'll be sure to send them your way...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pretty close if ya don't mind a platform: http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/35803384/c/26168.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pretty close if ya don't mind a platform: http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/35803384/c/26168.html OOh, ooh... GORGEOUS OR WHAT?! Also - I think it was Kirk's Folly did some absolutely darling brooches (pins?) with rhinestoned ruby slippers and wands on them... they were DIVINE and I still covet one madly! May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pretty close if ya don't mind a platform: http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/35803384/c/26168.html LOL! Cool! I'm surprised they even sell them in women's sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaionlife Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Glittery mary janes: http://tangodirect.com/products/?page=Products&item=53 And, these are more of red sequined shoes, much more conservative in their stying: http://www.fantasiawear.com/shoes-high-hee...s-dor01-red.htm And, for your dancing pleasure: http://tangodirect.com/products/?page=Products&item=53 And, if you would rather make your own: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Glitter-Shoes And, this is absolutely TOO COOL: The Red Shoe Delivery Service: http://www.fashionprojects.org/?p=146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 LOL! Cool! I'm surprised they even sell them in women's sizes. lololol .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 And, for your dancing pleasure:http://tangodirect.com/products/?page=Products&item=53 And, this is absolutely TOO COOL: The Red Shoe Delivery Service: http://www.fashionprojects.org/?p=146 LOVE these!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have a question about Pheros for the regular users. Have they ever given you strange dreams or disrupted your sleep pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaionlife Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have a question about Pheros for the regular users. Have they ever given you strange dreams or disrupted your sleep pattern? I have just *recently* started using them. I have been using "non-sexual" blends at school and use the copulins/sexual blends only at home and only at night. They have not in any way affected my sleep patterns nor have they caused any unusual dreams. However, I seem to need relatively little copulins to make an effect on My Beloved (one to two drops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have a question about Pheros for the regular users. Have they ever given you strange dreams or disrupted your sleep pattern? Disrupted sleep pattern ? NO Strange dreams ? hmmm.. nothing distubing or perhaps not any stranger then usual I guess, could just be something prescribed for smoking cessation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) I have a question about Pheros for the regular users. Have they ever given you strange dreams or disrupted your sleep pattern? Yes. And others have reported the same thing over at Phero Talk, even the guys, and with different pheros. In my own case, I get very erotic dreams if I wear cops and none together in combo. I think its the smell of the cops telling my subconsious something about my own sexual state and the smell of none telling my subconsious there is an alpha male around somewhere... Put those two together and KAPOWIE - on me - erotic dreams. I have a feeling Dominance might prompt the same response on me. Not that I would be complaining of course. May Edited February 15, 2008 by May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaionlife Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Put those two together and KAPOWIE - on me - erotic dreams. I have a feeling Dominance might prompt the same response on me. Not that I would be complaining of course. May And I certainly wouldn't complain either! I'm thinking I'll give that mix a try..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 And I certainly wouldn't complain either! I'm thinking I'll give that mix a try..... Put a little on before bed. It works for me the majority of the time, although I think you can build a tolerance.. May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 A-none containing products usually give me sexual dreams....cops, not so much.....Dominance doesn't seem to do it to me, but if I wear a higher -none containing product, kapowie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 I was filling some vials of the concentrate last night, and when I was done with the pipette, I swiped it on my arm so I could smell it. This is the pure phero juice, it's supposed to be diluted 1/10 ratio before using, but I just didn't think about it. So all night long, I woke up every ten minutes and gave up after 3 hours of trying to sleep. No erotic dreams (darn it!) just completely restless. Might have absolutely no relation to the pheros, but not having much experience with them, I was just wondering if they effect anyone else in a similar manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I was filling some vials of the concentrate last night, and when I was done with the pipette, I swiped it on my arm so I could smell it. This is the pure phero juice, it's supposed to be diluted 1/10 ratio before using, but I just didn't think about it. So all night long, I woke up every ten minutes and gave up after 3 hours of trying to sleep. No erotic dreams (darn it!) just completely restless. Might have absolutely no relation to the pheros, but not having much experience with them, I was just wondering if they effect anyone else in a similar manner. Not sure if this link will work, but others have associated pheros with restless nights and weird dreams. If link is inappropriate please remove it. http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromon...reams-9758.html May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 oooh, interesting stuff, May. Thanks for posting the link. I guess I am not the only one to have experienced sleeplessness when exposed to the pheromones, but it seems from those reports that the effect is more when someone is new to them, like I am. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 oooh, interesting stuff, May. Thanks for posting the link. I guess I am not the only one to have experienced sleeplessness when exposed to the pheromones, but it seems from those reports that the effect is more when someone is new to them, like I am. Interesting. I think people might build a bit of a tolerance to the self-effects, people who have stopped using pheros for a while, then started again, have reported noticing self-effects more when they came back. By the way... what are we going to do to celebrate your 1,000th post? It's not wildly far away and is a big and unique milestone! May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 By the way... what are we going to do to celebrate your 1,000th post?It's not wildly far away and is a big and unique milestone! LOL! How about a gym membership - because obviously I have been spending far too much time on my arse in front of this computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 LOL! How about a gym membership - because obviously I have been spending far too much time on my arse in front of this computer! Nope because that would mean you and Danna would spend more time in the Gym and less time brewing us scrumptious scents! May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Nope because that would mean you and Danna would spend more time in the Gym and less time brewing us scrumptious scents! May ...waitaminnit, I think you're thinking about it the wrong way... If we collectively PayPal them the gym fee, think of how many more *years* of potions we'd get from happy, healthy and stress-free Potion Master and Sinister Girl?! Heck, they can have MY memberhsip..it's been idling for months almost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potion Master Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Heck, they can have MY memberhsip..it's been idling for months almost! LOL! I honestly do not know how people do it. Was it Chai who said she wakes up before dawn and works out, then gets her kids ready for school, then goes to work, then comes home to play wife? Jiminy. I work at least 16 hours a day and barely find time to sleep let alone the rest of all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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