Diane999

Mine shipped today! My that was really fast!

I'm so excited!

Diane

Well, some women misconstrue being easy with being irresistable. Guys will often go for the easy score. It doesn't mean they value her, in fact it means the opposite. Still I guess she has to paint it in some way that is easy on her psyche. It looks like she didn't have much else going for her, including appropriate boundaries!

Well she certainly was a sure thing. Funny thing is, there was a guy who walked by 8 different times and smiled at me and waved each time. Her back was turned so she didn't see this but the minute I finally waved back, he came right on over and introduced himself. He wasn't interested in her but when he went in to get me a drink, she said, "oh, he was waiting until the other guys left so he could come talk to me." WTF?!! Vain much?

Thank you all of you!!

 

Does EST have any self effects on women?

 

 

 

I can't wait to try the pheromones out!

According to PET scan studies, Estratetraenol effects most men by stimulating oxytocin and vasopressin release from the hypothalmus. This effect is not seen in most women. The receptor for EST is unidentified.

Oxytocin causes feelings of love, bonding and closeness.

Diane

I'll shoot you an email...

Diane

They are great added to bath salts as well. The steam from the bath is a terrific diffuser, and an interesting way to put a nice touch on a romantic bath for two.

Diane

When is the funeral and when are you leaving if you decided definitely you are going?

Diane

I wonder why no EoW ?

I cant speak for Dr. Stone, but it has been shown that copulins (the main ingredient in EoW) increases testosterone production in men. It has been hypothesized that these elements work by increasing GnRH release from GnRH neurons in response to the pheromone signaling of the copulins. GnRH works directly on the hypothalmus to cause the release of LH and that affects the testicular tissue in men to produce more testosterone.

Since these systems are the same in men and women it follows that GnRH would be released in women exposed to copulins as well (not tested). In women GnRH release of LH stimulates the ovaries, and increases the production of female hormones, rather than testosterone.

You really don't want to be doing anything to upset your already pregnancy-regulated hormone levels during pregnancy.

This may be a non issue, however, since women already produce much more copulins during pregnancy than they do even at ovulation (high estrogen=high copulin output).

Back in the day when I was pregnant with my first child, I couldn't figure out why every male I came across was hitting on me... a lot of it very blatant. I felt like a swollen beach ball, but evidently they though I was sexy as all get out. Now I know why!

I would also stay away from DHEA, DHEA-S, pregnenolone, androsterone, any of the estratetrienes, and all androgens like androstenone or androstanone. Alpha androstenol should be okay.

Diane

Puppified Strawberries, definitely. I can't wait!

Diane

Oh, I can't wait for Ally's Puppified Strawberries... zomg, zomg, zomg!

Diane

I'd be interested in knowing everyone's thoughts on this as well. I got my unscented 60/40 1x Open Windows spray not too long ago, and have worn it a few times under or on top of other LP perfumes. I'm not sure if I've noticed anything. I may have been in a better mood, but who's to say how good my mood would have been otherwise?

It may have something to do with a stuffy nose I've had.. would that block the pheromones like it blocks scent?

I didn't notice anyone else acting differently, either, though I could have been too far away, or maybe my sweatshirt was too thick for the pheros to really diffuse properly... Or maybe I just need a stronger spray?

Or possibly, as Beccah suggests, I'd be better off with full-strength phero add-ins?

The target organ for pheromones is in the nose, so a stuffy nose from hay fever or a cold can seriously interfere with getting self-effects. But you can rest assured that those who are exposed to the pheromones will get effects, as long as their noses are clear and they haven't had any surgeries that damaged the nerve pathways for pheromones.

The only time I don't get self effects from pheromones is if I've overused them; if I am sick; or if I'm taking prescription corticosteroids. Then I get no effects from anything.

Oh, one other thing. I find that using pheromones unscented the effects are much less noticeable. With a good quality fragrance the effects can be 5 times as strong. So, I'm seconding Beccah's suggestion to go with an add-in rather than an unscented product.

Diane

Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. I really like this forum. You ladies are wild! LOL!

 

 

Hi, Diane. :banana072: I hope you're doing well. Love the EST I got from you. I gave it a good workout last night (not in the way you might think!). LIterally, I used while indoor rockclimbing. TG, when he was around, was kind and attentive to me.

Ooh, that is so awesome! My guy is like a mother hen when I wear it. He can go from stone cold, too busy to bother... straight to, "Honey, would you like some cocoa?"

Diane

Hi!

Diane

I don't know of any scientific literature around this... and I think a lot has to do with individual responses, as well as starting base state, what the effects are/will be.

For my husband, wearing cops has made him last longer. He seems more in control. But at the same time, he reports an increase in arousal. So for him it is the best of both worlds.

This is really an issue I'd like to hear more about from people.... what their experiences are, because really who knows?

Diane

Actually, it depends on the concentration of the copulin fatty acids. Because they are so volatile a great deal of them can end up in the air space between the liquid and the cap. Unfortunately, even stored upright, the rubber will dissolve.

Replacing the top with a tight sealing silicon-lined cap is really the only way to go.

I've bought 2 bottles of EOW last year from LS, and Lor sent me a third, also from there. The first one I used up mostly in trying to blend a dilution that was low enough that it didn't overwhelm my fragrances. The second, I spilled part of and my hubby made me toss the rest. The third, I kept sealed in a lock top container. It was the only one I had for more than a few months and this one the rubber tip totally dissolved and fell into the bottle.

Each of these smelled completely different, and I don't know why. The first smelled like rancid cheese. The second smelled like old fruit. The third smelled more like pure copulins in their acidic form, but it was also the one that ate the rubber.

Diane

I'm not sure where, but I think you can get the same size caps online with a silicone seal. I'd swap out the dropper for the silicone and rinse the dropper after use.

Diane

It's an age issue. The rubber on those dipper caps is unstable, and the acidity of the contents has eaten away the rubber. The actual product should last years and years and years, but the container they are using is a problem. (I knew that when I chose to use the silicone roller ball housing for our version - it won't degrade like that.)

 

You can either replace the cap yourself with a new one of the same, (it should last maybe 2 years), or transfer the entire contents into another bottle like the ones we have with the silicone tops. I would reject bottles that have had their contents exposed to the air or those that may have absorbed dissolved rubber.

It is the nature of the fatty acids of the EOW and the rubber caps... these two don't mix, well actually they do, sort of.

It is a chemical truism that like dissolves like. And rubbers are long chain carbon polymers. The carbon chains of the fatty acids dissolve rubber because they are structurally alike.

To understand how this works, try to dissolve a little salt in a drop of oil... it doesn't work, because salt is ionic. If you try the same thing with a drop of water, the salt dissolves instantly because water is also ionic. This is what is happening with the dropper caps of EOW.

I got a bottle last summer that lasted about 3 months and then the top fell into the bottle. I put the whole thing in another, slightly larger, wide mouth bottle with a silicone cap and taped around the edges. I keep the EOW from LS as a reference, and wouldn't give any of it to anyone to use because of the dissolved rubber that is now in the mix.

Diane

This is an interesting question. My SO walked all over me (or tried to) when I wore AD's TAH, but he responds very lovingly to EST.

I never got to experience my husband while I was pregnant (2nd marriage for both of us), but I've heard from the family and from him that he was never as contented or as happy as when he was an expecting father. He is a great father, btw.

My ex was horrible to me while I was pregnant, and I've often wondered if he wasn't having a negative reaction to my naturally produced EST. But then again, he never took to fatherhood and all that implies either.

If you're husband didn't take to your pregnancy well, and he is having difficulty with EST on you, but not on himself - then he may a problem with pregnant women, and that may not have anything to do with the pheromone, but rather with what the pheromone signifies, i.e., pregnancy.

Diane

Hello everybody!

I already posted in one of the other threads, but I thought I'd pop over here and introduce myself.

My name is Diane. I am a Cancer rising Gemini with a Sagittarius moon. That mean I have big boobs and big eyes, feel everything very deeply, can't express it very well, and laugh about it to myself all the time. I have two sons of my own, one son and daughter I inherited with my marriage, and two beautiful grand-babies. Our two sons at home are 19 and 13 and both just beginning to get really interested in girls. I have a wonderful bull dog of a husband and I feel like one of the luckiest people in the world.

I was a little intimidated by Mara until I spoke to her on the phone and found out that she is one of the most wonderful, caring, insightful, enjoyable people I've ever had the pleasure of talking to.

I have training in Reike and Pranic healing; Laboratory Medicine; Microbiology; Genetics; Tantric Yoga Meditation practices; Chakra balancing; and limited Huna

My favorite love potions: Pherogirl, Red

Hobbies: quantum physics; neurotransmitter studies; pheromone blending; perfumery; fantasy/sci-fi; ancient and modern history; online gaming

Don't do's: Politics

Oh, and I am officially entering my croning this year... I'm turning 50!

Diane