Cycle Kitten

Sorry, I can't figure out if there's a multi quote option on my phone. Eggers, I have seen the cream on etsy, thanks for the good review, I may try that in the future but I'm not overly fond of fruity scents and make a lot of my own skincare. I am following Mara's suggestion on how much fragrance to use in a lotion since she was kind enough to share. Hearts, it does make sense that things could go that way, maybe I need to experiment more with the softer blends for the bedroom. I'm super passive in nature, except in the bedroom, for a girl with two alpha males I'm almost always the initiator/aggressor. I have been hoping that CP would bring a bit more of the animal out of the boys but perhaps it just makes me that much more the alpha when it comes to getting physical, I get a big dose of selfies when I wear this and really have to hold myself in check. That could be why I got a very primal reaction when wearing H&S, it was exactly the kind of night I had hoped for when wearing CP.

My boys would find that completely weird or rather have found it to be weird. They really don't care about primping, I think I get more "hits" from gasoline and motor oil than I'll ever get from pheros. When we road trip I'm lucky if my hair gets brushed. No time or space for extras when you're on two wheels. I'm just thankful they do favor showers, little else is required.

I plan to experiment further with enhanced lotion, mostly because I view it as stealth mode. Your SO may think it's a bit odd to go for some perfume before bed but smoothing some lotion on your legs while getting snuggled up in front of the fire wouldn't seem strange at all. I'm sure many more tests will be needed. ? I was trying to wrap my head around the dilution of the product. Essentially it's 1.5 ml to 2 oz of lotion, I was attempting to calculate how many applications you would normally get from the sample size as a perfume vs how many applications 2 oz of lotion would provide. Wondering if they somehow balance out being that you use way more product as lotion than you would perfume oil. Does that make any sense? Perhaps my thought process is way off. Experimenting is part of the fun, but I am hoping to find a sweet spot with this being that it's not something I would typically wear out and about. Time will tell.

Thanks Luna, I've been trying to keep notes and be fair about what may or may not be "hits" when it comes to pheros. I am generally the initiator and it can sometimes make me a bit self conscious. I've actually had a very dominant, animalistic reaction when wearing H&S recently which baffled me. Perhaps that was him picking up on my need to see that side of him. So many things to ponder and learn.

I experimented a bit adding CP to some lotion and allowed it to settle for over a week. Last night I decided to slather it on my legs while settling in to watch a movie. The hubby only responded to how good it smells. He doesn't seem to be overly responsive to Pheros in general but he has reacted to CP before. With this one it seems a reaction comes only when I initiate. Has anyone else noticed something similar? The previous times I've worn this he has buried his face in application points, commented on the fragrance, and sometimes started chewing on me but the "magic" only happened after I started to get physical. Each time I've patiently waited to see what reaction he would have things stopped with the huffing and nibbling. Casually snuggling on the sofa with my freshly slathered legs over his did nothing. Next time I plan to act on my own impulses to further test the theory. Experiments must continue. CP seems to definitly flip my switch so wearing it just for me and the fragrance is a win. Im also curious about anyone's thoughts on the effectiveness of Pheros in lotion being that it's a product we deliberately rub into our skin vs wearing it on top.

I haven't tried any of the girl/girl blends but for me cougar has produced zero hits with men and a lot of attention from ladies. Aja, wearing nothing else to cover has made women I barely know or had just met hugggy, one woman wouldn't let go. My mom has had similar reactions wearing these as well. And there was one night out, wearing LFN, that my husband swore our young waitress wanted to tear me apart, I actually noticed it too. I'm not certain if the $5 samples of aja are still available but people seem to really want to be near me when I wear this, it very much has a " bees to the flower" effect for me with either gender but so far it seems women are brave enough to get hugggy over it. Good luck and happy experimenting.

I realize this is an old thread but I'm glad I found it. I was just considering adding some compromising positions to unscented lotion. Since its for playtime I was thinking along the lines of putting lotion on your legs before bed is not as strange as slathering yourself with perfume in front of your SO, or going to the bathroom and coming out freshly perfumed.My question: has anyone found the 3 ml to 4 oz lotion to be nicely effective? Does anyone have compared experience of lotion to perfume? And how much lotion do you need to apply? I have 1.5 oz lotion bottles so I'm not trying a large amount, I've done the math, .75 ml/ 1.5 oz lotion and my lotion can handle a 2% fragrance load which works out to .9 ml wondering if I should try full capacity. PM thanks so much for sharing this info, exactly what I was hoping to find.

I am so in love with this fragrance as well, if it were not for the pheros I would probably stop wearing anything else, I'm so addicted to it but afraid to wear all the time.

When I ordered my first UN samples last November I went straight for the sexual or I feel sexy pheros. PM was not on my list, perhaps because I didn't think it was something I needed being that I consider myself super lucky in love. After reading so many reviews I purchased a bottle in my last order. Wore it for the first time last night with a new scent I made, so no prexisting reaction to a favorite scent with the hubby. I can't say I noticed any selfies, he came home from work, I finished making dinner and we sat down as usual. We went to our favorite watering hole after to get a beer, still nothing to report. Halfway through our beer another regular approached us, we have talked to him once before, know he's going through a bad divorce but last night he was glued to us. What I found odd was him standing very close to me telling us his life story but he started getting really touchy with my hubby. Seriously couldn't keep his hands off of him, rubbing his shoulder and I was virtually invisible. FFW we make our escape, come home, and as my hubby is sitting on the bench in our entry getting ready to remove his boots, I sit down on his lap and give him a kiss. Not weird, or passionate, quite normal behavior with us, after 20+ yrs we are still very much young and in love. Somehow we found ourselves sitting on the entry floor barely inside the front door tangled up and kissing. For hours, not in an overly sexual way, just kissing. Like when you have just started dating someone and haven't been intimate yet. When kissing someone for hours on end is the most important thing in the world, and things like uncomfortable hardwood floors or being crammed in your parents car when you were kids is of little concern. The whole world just becomes nonexistent outside of that moment. We eventually got up and went to bed and I got the bonus round of a realy long massage even though the hubby has to rise at 4am for work. In our adult lives and with our many years together spending hours on end kissing isn't something we really have time for. I'm going to have to admit that the night was PM related and that its definitly a winner. The last time I remember being so engrossed in non sexual kissing, for so long, I think we were 20, newly dating, and in his car, in a diner parking lot.

Here it is, thanks for all the advice and support.

So my normal behavior when the man comes home is "smell me, do you like it?" When I'm trying new things or trying to get a baseline for something in particular. I have some compromising positions on my forearm and back of neck because I so love the fragrance. I haven't pinned down too much of a reaction with the hubby as of yet. He always indulges me, but odly this time he started chewing on my arm. This is a very good sign..

I just ordered LFM a and H&S, I do like LFN, makes me feel pretty good and the hubby is always super captivated and full of compliments when I wear it. I've also gotten nice responses from strangers in public places. I'm looking forward to trying some new things soon. I have velvet kisses with CB, might as well be invisible with the BF and the hubby really does not like it. I'm going to give it to my mom. I may get CB in UN just to give the phero a fair shot, it could just be the fragrance with hubby. Men are funny, perhaps all, but maybe it's mine. Both seem to love a kick ass, self sufficient, strong women but want the domestic house mouse when they are feeling nurturing. (Be as bad ass as you want to be as long as you still need me, but not too much,and don't take any shit, unless it's from me of course.) I can't quite verbalized whatever "it" is that they are drawn to but I'm thankful both of those women reside in me. Actually I Think she resides in all of us, we (women) are superior multi taskers in general. Somewhere I remember a movie quote "all men dream of the temptress, turned pliable maiden after he's had a hard day at work"

Hi MR, I'm by no means an authority on the subject but I would imagine LFM or SS4W might be better suited to a younger woman. I definitly experience a nice spring in my step from either of those, a bit glamorous and confident. My personal " hits" have been better with these than cougar. My mom actually gets more hits from women wearing cougar. Perhaps some more experienced users will chime in. This is the perfect time to get some pheros to try with the sample sizes being available on etsy. Welcome to the forum.

Good lord, 2 is a lot to handle for me, not physically, but the emotional, personal, day to day stuff. My boys are extremely similar creatures yet very yin and yang in some aspects. I have a sample of compromising positions with sexpionage I've worn a couple of times, just around the house doing mundane things to see what noticeable self effects surfaced. Worried that maybe I would be too aggressive, so far I've only noticed that I feel pretty energetic and confident, and really want some physical attention, I've caught myself rubbing my own legs. Have not worn it around either of my SO's yet, will definitly review when I do. I must say that I absolutely love the fragrance on me. Ive got a very passive, nurturing, earth mother, hostess vibe so I can't imagine what it would take to turn me into a B*%ch but in the bedroom ( especially with a few glasses of red wine ) the claws and teeth come out and I can be quite aggressive. I would love to promote a bit more animalistic, take charge, behavior out of either of my boys, it doesn't surface often enough for my tastes. Editing for incorrect content: I was considering giving Cpositions a go and realized I have worn it around the hubby. I apparently misplaced some notes and had a complete brainfart. I did experience a little aggression with it on one occasion but not so much in a bitchy way but more of a " I pity whomever tries to block my path to whatever I want today". Very determined to get what I wanted rather than being my normal let me take care of you self. If it we're not such a sexual blend I think it could have some merit in my normal day to day, being that I often neglect my own needs. Further exploration necessary.

Shucks, thanks Halo, I'm super honored to be in a promo photo for the video. Thank Dolly, the deed is already done, I just thought I would share the outcome. My hubby overnighted my LPMP order so I had audacious to wear, I posted in the UN audacious review thread. It was stressful, up at 5, no coffee, the first to be filmed but it was a good day. Though playing with fire half asleep, nervouse, and before coffee is not the best of situations. Being an introvert in an extrovert career is a strange animal. I do have Dom and Leather on order. I'll post the link for the video when it's released. Thanks so much to everyone for their advice and support. And if you like heavier rock, Jasmine Cain is one of the hardest working women I know, and she's finally on Pandora.

The hubby and I are both 40's, the BF 50's, though I think you may be onto something with the "chase". I'm always a sure thing, perhaps that has a lot to do with entering into a poly relationship. ( not meaning to come off as overly sexualized, our relationship is based on friendship and love first )Over the last few years I've come to think that the BF really enjoys the chase as well and that I may need to make him work a little harder from time to time. I've also considered that wearing cops around either of them is entirely too much pressure being that both are utterly aware that my appetite is greater than either or both of them can accommodate most days. I enjoy the selfies from cops, I feel more attractive and confident sometimes, which is great when I'm having a blah day, but have decided to refrain from wearing them "for the boys", at least for a little while. Though I really want to see where sexpionage takes us, if anywhere.

Kat, you should start a journal, I wish I personally had a clingy response. I'm also in a poly relationship, and it seems neither of my boys respond to cops. No reaction at all or sometimes the BF appears to have an aversion to me when I'm wearing them. I like wearing cops for the selfies, my adventures in pheroland have just begun over the last year so I'm trying to be good about journaling. It does leave me to ponder some things about how men react to cops, like, my hubby and my BF are not into having children. Perhaps a strong reproductive signal isn't advantageous in my situation. When I'm natural, no fragrance or pheros the BF can barely stay away from me, the only positive reactions I've had with him were from TH and SS4W, it seems when I wear cops he's pretty hands off. With the hubby its business as usual with or without cops. Both of them appear to react unfavorably to CB. It's intriguing how each of us react differently and get different responses.

Question: could someone who has ordered for pheromas before please give some advice on the best way to order? So far I've either ordered on etsy or the .com. I plan on a sizeable purchase, can they be combined? Do we simply message Mara with the list? Order from each site independently? I don't want to make my order more complicated for her than it needs to be.

I would also love some feedback on the cops/ est question. I have decided that personally I feel the selfies are very important and reason enough to experiment. The men in my life don't seem to be responsive to cops but at the same time not favorably responsive to EST. They are definitly more into a girl that can handle herself, not nessisarily into the protective/ coddling aspect. There is so much to consider when it comes to dealing with individual personalities.

I haven't tried sheer essence but I have diluted EOW 50/50 with DPG to dilute it, still can't get dressed for more than an hour, I'm going to try small batches with just vanilla or cocoa absolute and EOW just to make it more palatable on initial application and see how that goes. . My mom likes fruity scents so I'll experiment further with that for her. There is so much to learn. I really appreciate the feedback everyone has provided.

In the future I'm definitly considering using OCCO, LAM, or BAM for my cops needs,I just have a bottle of EOW to use and would like to get comfortable finding a way to utilize it. I realy don't believe there is anything that can't be layered with vanilla. I'm a huge fan of CP, I love the patchouli and vanilla , always a favorite even before my adventures in phero land. I am definitlly the agressor physically sans pheros though, so CP can make me a lot to handle. In general I am an amber girl,my go to is madini Amber out of morocco. And I love to blend it with Aja. Aja smells divine on me and even women I don't know well can't seem to stop hugging me. Alas, the hubby is 40's,the BF is 50's and helping a testosterone peek along is always in my favor. I am seriously starting to grasp the cougar concept but unfortunately, not very interested in Cubs. (My dance car d is quite full anyway) Oddly, it seems my boys are not overly responsive to cops, but I'm still in the research and experiment stage. Myself, I seem to be very reactive to what I wear. I am going to experiment with some EO's and absolutes with EOW and see what happens. At least i know if all else fails I can simply use LP OCCO for layering, even if it is strictly for myself. I'm also going to order OCCO's in all other flavors to play with. I still have a few commercial scents I like to wear. The hubby tells me that OCCO white smells like his 78 camaro, and for a car guy, that's a good thing.

I would love to hear if someone has experience mixing those as well. Thanks for the SS4W + sexpionage, I definitly want to give that a go, SS4W seems to be a hit with the boy and I'd like to see the more aggressive side of him, more often.

Shoot!, thanks for that info Halo, I just assumed that since we produce pheros there and most pheros would not smell weird in that area, the body heat factor, and that as far as intimacy it's not one of the more common places to be licked, bitten, etc. it would be good.Has anyone made a simple thread or doc " the do's and dont's of pheros? Exp: 1) do not wear cops in hair or clothing 2) do not wear pheros in armpits 3) do not wear horny in a bar alone and allow strange men to buy you a beer ( from experience) 4),.... I wish I had an answer for you, I've been trying to resist the temptation of wearing blends together due to all the warnings against doing so. I am trying to comprise a list of good mixes based on the reviews of others here in the forum. Most people seem to state that sexpionage is for alone time though.

Compromising positions: 1st time, not much to report but perhaps I got a little bossy and hyper in a general way, no reaction from the hubby. 2nd go-me: energetic, feeling confident, definitly on the prowl though I am generally pretty aggressive sexually. Hubby, nothing, however in the morning before we even got up for coffee there was a very long/ enthusiastic romp. 3rd go-I don't give a hoot how anyone else reacts, I'm wearing this for me, I want to be touched, a lot, even if I have to do it myself. I am completely at ease with that, just don't get in my way or I may chew your face off. Honestly don't recall if the hubby reacted. Round 4- TBD, I got such a positive reaction to OCCO white today that just decided to throw some CP over it. Personally revisiting round 3 and trying to let him finish the project he started before tearing him to pieces. ( therefore killing time on computer) I truly don't care if anyone reacts to this because I love me and want to chew on myself. Oh yeah, the scent: for me, nothing but eggnog from the bottle, eggnog and vanilla as soon as it hits my skin. I smell no cops at all on me which is odd being that EOW straight up never dries down on me. Within 5-10 min I can't really pick out the eggnog, it's mostly just a very amazing patchouli/vanilla combo and I'm in love with it. It's a bit smuttier where I put it over the OCCO white, definitly different, perhaps a patchouli/ honey/ vanilla smell, still good but I prefer the CP on its own. On a side note, I've discovered I like to wear pheros in the armpit. Some time ago the hubby and I gave up on deodorant, the first month was rough admittedly, but getting through that was worth it, we no longer require using it. We actually smelled funky when those products wore off. I remember the hubby being a little OCD with antiperspirant/deodorant and yet every morning when I would snuggle up into him and if my head landed on his pit rather than chest he was quite stinky, and now we just don't get offensively smelly. It's reported that it takes about a month for our bodies to adjust. Then there's the varying theories on health scares from using antiperspirants and the topic of using such products decreasing our exposure and sensitivity to naturally occurring pheromones. To me, most pheros smell kinda natural, like mild, normal, natural body odor so the pit seems to be good placement, and it gets warm in there for diffusion. Ok, sideline tangent over, I've waited long enough....