Tinkerbelle

Thanks, ladies!! Good to know!

Do you guys find that the OCCOs effectiveness lasts about the same as pheros? 6-8 hours? Or do you refresh? Especially if you were wearing them on a date, and then wanted to be sure they were potent afterwards when you get back home??

So I have only been doing the 'mone thing since Feb, but I can tell you what I have learned/experienced, though there are far more mone-intelligent people on here that can chime in, I'm sure. #1 - Be careful with that Sexpionage in spray. If you get that many cops in the air, the perfume scent can disappear LONG before the copulin smell...and that is stinky. So be sure to spray that close to your skin. Don't get it on your clothes or in your hair. Same thing applies...the good goes away before the other when it attaches to fabrics/hair from what I have heard. Most people - not all - but most try to keep copulins in oil form and let them dry down a long time before dressing. #2 - Mixing blends... some folks do, most folks don't recommend it. I have done it. I have only ever mixed two complex blends that seemed to work well, but I only used a small amount of Gotcha in my cleavage and then LFN on my breasts. I did not "mix" them in a bottle or together in the same place on my skin. Most blending you will see is of a non-complex blend with something else to help steer it. OR lots of people add cops to things, but again, that is a simple mix. I will say that the blends here do not REQUIRE mixing things up. They may not all work for you or for your intended target...it takes a lot of experimenting with blends, amounts, etc. I certainly don't have it all figured out. I would START with one blend at a time. Do it for a couple of days in varying amounts to find your sweet spots. Then after you have a feel for how each one works for you, if you WANT to try something mixed, start slow. The ONLY reason I tried the mix I did is because a few others had good results with it. #3 - READ THE THREADS for each blend. You will get SO MUCH INFO on here. Buy a notebook. Take good notes. That is my BEST advice. I have a text file AND a spreadsheet. #4 - EVERYONE is different. With how the scents and the 'mones can act on you. This is another reason to READ UP. You will see the varying of each person's experiences. You can also learn a lot about how certain personality types react (in terms of your target audience) to the mones "generally speaking". There are a lot of variables....personalities, environments, etc. #5 - Last but NOT LEAST...start small...in dosing. LESS IS MORE. I still have a hard time with this....I want to slather in EVERYTHING. But it isn't wise. I struggle with wrapping my head around the fact that it takes just a little. And feel free to ask questions...A LOT of questions can be answered with some digging. But we all have our specific situations we like to inquire about, and I still do a lot of hunting. But MOST IMPORTANT...Just have FUN!

Haven't read the whole thing yet, but here is the welcome section. http://lovepotion.invisionzone.com/index.php?showforum=21 Now... I'll go read the rest....

Woohoo!! I will hold off on placing another order until then.

Thanks, Dolly! I wonder what the chances of getting more solids in the future would be. I am about done with my first tin, I have 3 hoarded up, but if I used them as much as I wanted, they'd already be gone. I do have the oil, but it doesn't last on me for very long. Sigh. I sooooooo love the solid.

Just out of curiosity, what does that mean to you? How it wears? (I know what it means, but in a personal level for you is what I am asking.) I am still trying pheros and have a feel for certain blends, but don't necessarily have a grasp of how any of the individual pheros make me feel. I am starting to see patterns in blends that have specific ingredients and how TG reacts. I think he is a STRONG EST responder, which I anticipated he would be based on his personality. He also reacts well to things that lead with Beta-nol. I REALLY hope to get to try Sexology around him one day knowing those two things. But I haven't found how specific things feel to me EXCEPT B-nol, and I know I have to watch myself and what I say when I'm wearing blends heavy with it.

Quick question. Does this contain epi-androsterone? I have in my notes that it does. The temp site page for the phero only lists alpha and beta-nol. But the blog phero list on the temp site DOES say it has the epi in it.

I'm REALLY bummed. I got my shipping notification a week ago, and still nothing. The packages usually arrive in 2-3 days, and I have been tracking. The tracking info just STOPPED on Aug 19...when it said it was in transit to my city. Actually, at one point, it had an estimated arrival date of the 19th, which would have been about right since it left the PO in Oregon on the 16th. I have tried to contact USPS via their email system, but it is down. And my cell service where I am drops all the calls. :/ The Postal Service is making me sad.

So, interesting story. Not sure if it had ANYTHING to do with H&S or not, but it was HIGHLY unusual. So I was wearing UN H&S oil alongside the aphrodisia solid perfume. I also had mixed up my own little spray of H&S so I could re-up a little before seeing TG since for once, I KNEW I would see him yesterday. Before the meeting where I knew he would be, I went to the restroom and added a spritz on the back of my hand and smooshed it onto the back of the other hand. I did another spray onto my chest. I didn't think I'd actually be NEAR him for quite awhile, however, about 5 minutes later, he came up to tell me something before the meeting started. He looked at me kind of strange, and I wondered if I had hit him with the H&S as I walked by him going into the room. But that wasn't the WEIRDEST part. He had to present some notes during the meeting, and while he was talking, he started to veer off and divulge some fairly personal feelings/thoughts on things. Now...TG is PRIVATE! SUPER PRIVATE. And he does NOT bring personal things into the professional setting. Not in ANY way. That is one of the reasons I struggle with reading him inside the building. Outside of that context, he is very open with me, but walk in those doors and the barriers go UP. Anyway...I was a little weirded out by how personal he was making it. And then I thought...CRAP!! What if the H&S is making him spill his thoughts right now??? I remember reading that it was a cross between Treasured Hearts and True Confessions with some tweaks including EST. I kind of hope it wasn't the pheros, but I kind of hope it WAS. Because if it made him open up like he did in front of all those people, then who KNOWS what it can do if we are alone together.

That is awesome, Rose! And I am with you....there is no reason to let him in on the OCCO secret. His morale is VERY important, and anything you can do to keep that rolling benefits you BOTH.

Thanks!! I am going to take it for a spin and see what happens.

I remember you and I talking about it earlier in the thread and I emailed Mara after and got the above ingredients. Maybe she will chime in and verify, but that email was pretty recent. I think 5a IS Alpha Androstenol, but there is Beta, too, according to the response I got.

Awesome!! Thank you!!

So I saw in the Potion of the Day Thread that lots of you seem to wear this. Do any of you have any reviews on how it behaves with something like Gotcha/PM/LFN? Does it seem to enhance the effects of pheros you wear or do you see a difference? Just wondering. Trying new scent pairings with those three and since I am REALLY trying to get TG to show more interest outside of the setting we usually see each other, this sounded promising.

I actually emailed Mara about this once and she said it does have "B-nol, A-nol, Androsterone and Epi-Andosterone."

Ok. I had to come back again. I've been kind of hoping to get a journal soon so I can do this without it all being in review threads, and I want to give better details. But let me tell you this. I have been wearing this at least every other time I think I will see TG. I have also used PM and gotten quite a bit of chattiness with that. But when I wear LFN (this scent in particular) it is just different. He still gets a little chatty, but his eyes are different. And I had the opportunity to see him OUTSIDE of work, even though we were with a LOT of other people, but he actually took my elbow in his hand when he spoke to me....which seems small, but knowing him...it wasn't. He isn't super touchy in public AT ALL. And the fact that people we KNEW were there and saw it...that was an odd thing for him to do. And I went back to look at my notes days later to be sure, and yep...I was wearing THIS! At another time, he mentioned doing something outside of work (in a "friendly" way, but still) and that time, I was wearing this with one TEENY TINY swirl of Gotcha in my cleavage. Me thinks me might have to buy ALL THE PETALS OF SILK with LFN! SHEESH! I have the UN LFN and am working on which scents to wear it with since I need them to be light but cover well. But this one is just perfect....JUST. PERFECT.

Quick question about BANG. It says it has THDoc...I am guessing that is the alpha? I know LFM/LFN specifically say Beta-THDOC, and from what I have read, they do have different effects. Does anyone know for sure? Should I ask Mara in the questions thread? I thought it would be better here for those reading up on BANG down the road. THANKS!

I am excited to have finally made it to Disgruntled House Elf!! Woo!!

I adore the scent of this!! I tried it last night to give Gotcha another whirl. I didn't see any effects, but I experiment with Gotcha so rarely, I probably haven't hit my sweet spot. But I absolutely love the scent...better than the unphero'd VB. The VB without Gotcha smells a little more musky on dry down, whereas this one holds the floral longer on me. ETA: The scent is very uplifting to me. Since I typically go all boo-hoo on Gotcha (which is why I rarely test it), I am wondering if the scent didn't negate some of that for me. I'm going through some stuff anyway, so it isn't unusual for me to get a little emotional here lately, but I have ALWAYS been able to control it. When I wear Gotcha, it seems like I become SUPER emotive and can't hold back the tears should they decide to come. However, with this scented version that didn't happen. So I don't know if it was a combination of the scent AND the lower mcg of phero, but I did use it WITH a little UN. Either way, the scent is beautiful, and I think it did lighten my mood overall.

I haven't put a lot of testing into amounts with Gotcha because of the emotional factor. And I only see TG a few times a week at best. Makes it hard to get a good read sometimes. I have seen what I believe are hits with him with LFN and Perfect Match, fairly consistently. Of course, this time I took the leap with Gotcha to try it again but wasn't around him. I really wanted to see if I could wear it without a lot of boohooing. This time I wore a little of the UN in oil and then also the Vampire Bait with Gotcha. I thought maybe the lesser amount in the scented version would get it out there without making me react so much. I do love the scent of VB with Gotcha better than the unphero'd version of VB. I think it is uplifting which maybe helped counter the sad effects I typically get with Gotcha. I've been using the pheros since February and still have a lot of experimenting to do, but I think that LFN seems to hit TG the most so far, although PM does make him want to chat me up quite a bit. The effects are different, but both positive. I don't really feel like I can go wrong with either. But based on our present situation, I think the desired effect of Gotcha would be awesome if I could get it to produce for me. I'll keep trying. I LOVED MRF with SS4W, and when I first got a sample, I paired it with LAM and got some awesome hits. So I ordered a FB and now it gives me a headache EVERY time. Even just the tiniest amount. Same thing happens with Sneaky Clean, though I can wear BANG! without a problem. So I am not sure what is going on there. It is very interesting how things can affect us all.

Welcome!!! I loooove reading people's experiences with these awesome products. Can't wait to see yours!

I tried mine tonight for kicks, and got nada. :/ I wasn't around TG I just wanted to see if I could get any response. I was around people I know well, and saw no differences. Will try again with different amounts. Siiigh. At least I didn't cry all night like last time I wore it. That's progress.

That is awesome ocean!! Did you use oil or spray? I still haven't found how to use this for myself. I want my TG to love it. But it makes me sooooo emotional that I am scared to try it too often. Dang....now I want to try it again.

I am one week out...I don't remember where I was in my cycle when I used the sample. I might have put it in my notes, but I am not sure. I track my cycles, but not alongside the pheros, however, I may be able to match them up. The only time I've compared them is with Gotcha because that made me very emotional. I've used MRF, and others with those sugars, etc., but never got the burnt smell. :/